no shit.....

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

I have always been confused by peoples need to text anyway.  If you need to have a conversation with someone, and you have a phone in your pocket, why not call them and take care of a 20 minute series of fumbling through a 10 digit keypad typing abreviated code.  R U w/ Me? 
Of course, I am Mr. anti technology.  We don't even have call waiting.  Making someone "hold on" while you talk to someone else is rude!  First come, first serve.

simply cannot live without my BB and texting, hate hate hate speaking on phone.. shoot a text get your point across in 30 seconds

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

Sure you did 

Was this before, after, or while you spun out?

uhh yea I really did..
the first time out I went with my boy when i was supposed to go with an instructor i sent like 3 texts, as a matter of fact at one point on the straight i had no hands on teh wheel and when peter tells everyone of his ride with me he always brings that up and it was after i spun in that one turn thats eggs actly what i was texting about

[Ddan]

uhh yea I really did..
the first time out I went with my boy when i was supposed to go with an instructor i sent like 3 texts, as a matter of fact at one point on the straight i had no hands on teh wheel and when peter tells everyone of his ride with me he always brings that up and it was after i spun in that one turn thats eggs actly what i was texting about

Well ain't you sumthin'. 

[IZ]

1989..the number..another summer.

Get down..sound of a funky drummer!!



Ahhh..FBP brings back some good memories.

[ducatiz]

A proper solution would be correctly trained drivers with accountability and a cognitive ability to know when they need to communicate and when to concentrate.

Ever increasing sets of blanket laws and rules do nothing more than dumb down the population.

i have always pointed out

that the state needs to have shitty drivers

and aggressive drivers

to keep a good revenue stream going.

if everyone drove correctly and sanely

and didn't speed or wreck

what would happen to state income?

NYC takes in over $700,000,000 annually just from parking violations alone.  They refused to publish the moving violations amount, but it is estimated at close to  $1,000,000,000 annually.

just last month the NY times reported this

and that the city was deploying an additional 20% more ticket writers

because city revenues were down.

[Statler]

That's a very different issue than what level of multitasking becomes dangerous.   I bet Beck gets a a silly speeding ticket for something we all do every day safely before he ever gets one for drifting into a biker's lane while texting about hating treckies.

I'd rather have people paying attention and doing nothing but driving while doing 110 in the left lane (not weaving in and out etc.) than someone drifting between the two inside lanes varying speeds by more than twenty mph while trying to text or dial or shave or apply makeup etc.etc.etc.

Only one of those will be ticketed and lose a license (to your topic).



objective versus subjective categories to define safe driving.  One is much harder to prove as you know.

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

That's a very different issue than what level of multitasking becomes dangerous.   I bet Beck gets a a silly speeding ticket for something we all do every day safely before he ever gets one for drifting into a biker's lane while texting about hating treckies.

I'd rather have people paying attention and doing nothing but driving while doing 110 in the left lane (not weaving in and out etc.) than someone drifting between the two inside lanes varying speeds by more than twenty mph while trying to text or dial or shave or apply makeup etc.etc.etc.

Only one of those will be ticketed and lose a license (to your topic).



objective versus subjective categories to define safe driving.  One is much harder to prove as you know.

fyi im extremely respectful to all bikers on teh road, always give them room to breath and I never text anyone when they are around me

[ducatiz]

That's a very different issue than what level of multitasking becomes dangerous.   I bet Beck gets a a silly speeding ticket for something we all do every day safely before he ever gets one for drifting into a biker's lane while texting about hating treckies.

I'd rather have people paying attention and doing nothing but driving while doing 110 in the left lane (not weaving in and out etc.) than someone drifting between the two inside lanes varying speeds by more than twenty mph while trying to text or dial or shave or apply makeup etc.etc.etc.

Only one of those will be ticketed and lose a license (to your topic).



objective versus subjective categories to define safe driving.  One is much harder to prove as you know.

change driving laws to strict liability.  and if you cause someone's death as a result of not paying attention, then get manslaughter.

[Drunken Monkey]

fyi im extremely respectful to all bikers on teh road, always give them room to breath and I never text anyone when they are around me

And how exactly do you know they're around you if you're busy texting?

Sorry, at this point I've made up my mind that you're a menace.

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

And how exactly do you know they're around you if you're busy texting?

I was bit by a spider 3 days ago.

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

1989..the number..another summer.

Get down..sound of a funky drummer!!



Ahhh..FBP brings back some good memories.

WORD


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8PaoLy7PHwk#lq-hq-vhq

[That Nice Guy Beck!]

change driving laws to strict liability.  and if you cause someone's death as a result of not paying attention, then get manslaughter.

I agree with this, and on that note I banned myself from ever texting while the car is moving

[herm]

Gotta agree with Mother...I mean Ol' Dirty Assed Buzzard.  Laws won't solve this problem, common sense and responsibility will.  The real issue is to pay attention, be familiar with your equipment, and have the equipment set up for use.  There should be a viable reason for using these devices while driving, not chatting and arguing with your significant other.  

never said i was in favor of more laws. im not.

but in my cup half empty world, there are not enough people exercising common sense or responsibility.
so.........when beck gets in an accident his first month on the job as an amtrak jockey, (or just being a clueless driver on his own time) i want there to be clear wording which leaves no doubt that he was negligent. no chance for him to claim that " i didnt know" or "my employer never told me i couldnt"

[DrDesmo]

If you didn't read the article, fyi, this happened on an underground subway line, caused 2 cars to detail, $10M in damages, and like 50 people to go to the hospital.

Frankly I'm surprised this wasn't in place earlier - why on earth do you need a cell phone in those circumstances?

Adam

[herm]

If you didn't read the article, fyi, this happened on an underground subway line, caused 2 cars to detail, $10M in damages, and like 50 people to go to the hospital.

Frankly I'm surprised this wasn't in place earlier - why on earth do you need a cell phone in those circumstances?

Adam

and what the make the beast with two backs was so important more important than the safety of the passengers. couldn't wait for the next station stop?