Snobbery

[sally101]

hahahaha.   wait...we're talking about being snobby as bad and you just posted to judge someone by their chicken strips?   

you must have missed the  (as in j/k)

[Spidey]

<shrug>  It happens.  'specially with Ducs.  I do what I can to avoid that scene, but sometimes, it's just that way. 

re not inviting you on a ride, there's the 'other' perspective.  I might not tell some new guy where I was gonna ride if I don't know him.  There are some rides that are open to the public and others that are not.  That said, it *seems* like their group ride was part of the meet-up and therefore open to whoever wants to join.  My concern is that I don't want to have to take care of someone (or contact their loved ones) who tried to keep up, rode over his head and ate shit.  I'd be especially concerned if someone asked to join a ride and was dressed as you described yourself.  Hmmm . . . I guess that counts as snobbery.  I must be one of them.   

Sorry for the BS. That kind of attitude just doesn't belong in the bike riding community. Sure, we've had folks show up for rides in jeans and tennis shoes plenty of times but I never say anything to them. That's their deal, I am sure they can see that we all wear riding boots, leather or textile jackets and pants. Better to lead by example than ostracize someone who may not be able to afford all the gear at the moment.

We either make it clear not to show up in tennis shoes, or we give them tons of shit about it if they do.  That's not ostracizing them.  It's setting a norm.  I'm gonna be the one waiting for the ambulance, posting up details about their ankle surgery and cleaning the blood off the street.  So I get to say something.  Besides, if they can afford gas, they can afford a pair of hiking boots or Timberlands. 

There are TONS of snobby Ducati riders.  They are douchebags and you don't want to talk to them anyway.  They are just as bad as any other group. 

P.S.  Don't ever ride with Vin.  He's a f'n low-rent f'n scumbag.   

[MadDuck]

It gets worse than that.


Try to mix in with some bicycle road racer types.  First you have to have the right type of gear and then you physically have to keep up the pace. You could be dropped from the group miles from home and no one would ever care enough to even check if you made it back ok. Plus I notice those type of bikers don't even wave to other riders.

[MsTek]

Kinda off topic but not-

I was on my tangerine dream the other day near Wrigley Field and in the opposite direction is this guy on I think a Honda scooter.  You know what I am talking about?  The ones that are big enough to be a motorcycle?  Anyway, he's turing into a parking garage and he has another scooter behind him with a guy who has a little boy on the back.  As I pass him, he literally throws up a "Sieg Heil" at me.

Okay.

1.  You're on a scooter, I'm not going to wave back.  Well, most the time I don't unless you're cute or your on a vespa.
2. WTF is with the Sieg Heil??!!

Very odd.

[Jetbrett]

My initial reaction was the same as yours when I ran up against this with my local group.  Yep, I was a new rider on a puny M695.  I guess that made me an outcast.  You would have thought that common interest would lead to introductions, but not as much as I would have thought.  I was able to strike up conversations with a number of folks, but apparently I was beneath several others. 

After thinking about it, I had to chuckle a little bit.  Are you really defined by what you wear, where you live, what you do, or what you ride?  If so, how in the hell can you be happy.  do you know anyone who married their significant other just to please someone else or for the status?  I bet they are miserable now.  The same  has got to be true with ass hats who define themselves by what they ride (Ducati, Harley, BMW, sport bikes or cruisers).   If it was cool to ride pink scooters...ok that is a stretch.....would you do it just to be "cool"?

I just happen to really love my puny 695. I commute every day on it, ride it year round in the rain and snow, and find myself looking for excuses to ride it whenever and whereever.   It is waaay more comfortable than the 848 I demo'd last week and I recently got a big charge out cornering and passing far more powerful bikes at the track last week.   That said, that 848 put a perma-grin on my face with its power, handling, sound, and looks.  If I trade my trusty M695 for it...or any other bike for that matter... it won't be to please anyone but me. 

Oh, yea.  Count yourself lucky that they snubbed you.  Otherwise, you would have had wasted time talking to them before you realized that they were losers. 

[Charlief]

Holy shit....  I just spilled my Cristal all over the keyboard!

[Magnus]

Kinda off topic but not-

I was on my tangerine dream the other day near Wrigley Field and in the opposite direction is this guy on I think a Honda scooter.  You know what I am talking about?  The ones that are big enough to be a motorcycle?  Anyway, he's turing into a parking garage and he has another scooter behind him with a guy who has a little boy on the back.  As I pass him, he literally throws up a "Sieg Heil" at me.

Okay.

1.  You're on a scooter, I'm not going to wave back.  Well, most the time I don't unless you're cute or your on a vespa.
2. WTF is with the Sieg Heil??!!

Very odd.

wait, was he riding this?

[Grug]

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Oh Lawdy! 

















The joys of google image search!

[Magnus]

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The joys of google image search!

yeah, normally you wouldn't expect to get any hits on a "scooter + hitler" search!

[MsTek]

wait, was he riding this?

OMG... I just choked on my cookie!  LAWL!  No he was not riding that but wow...

[ab]

Like you, I have heard comments from rider friends that think most of the Duc riders they encounter seem snoobish and aloof except me ofcourse (In my puny 620 - I always have to explain how inexpensive mine was compared to their R6, R1 to many inquiries ).  In my experience, I have met a few friendly Duc riders but there were some douche bags as well.  No wonder the negative sentiments from other riders.  

As for judgements, just ride and let your riding speak for itself.   Chicken strips, I think most of us can't help but notice that.  It only comes into play when people are hyping up their skills and then you peak at the chicken strip and just make a mental note to stay the hell out of that riders way  

As for gears, I get the feeling either most Duc riders are snoobish or I am misunderstanding them.  Wearing expensive gear or an inexpensive gear or not wearing any gear does not bother me at all.  We're all adults and we make our own decisions.  Why sweat that ?  

As for group rides, I have ridden with a formal group with invitation a few times and I respectfully declined invitation next time with explanation and they were cool about it  (that group happened to be too mellow for me at the time).   What is not acceptable is to be invited and just disrepect their setup and riding styles outright ( A buddy of mine did that as he just could not stand it and no wonder they hated him)  

Anyhow, I am not a member of any formal riding group with President and bla bla bla.  I just hate the idea of that.  I just meet up with rider friends and anyone is welcome and just bang out.  

[MsTek]

I will say this- and I know a few of the guys in this group do read this board and know who I am-

But why do people who own Ducatis feel the need to wear Ducati everything right down to their underwear?  It sorta creeps me out to be honest.  I was getting a little flac because I wear an Icon armor jacket on my Duc.  And yes, I have seen some guys that I talk to who are completely in full racing leathers by- Ducati on their Ducati bike

To each their own, let them enjoy life however they want to... but in some aspect, say I like McDonalds a lot. Wouldn't you think me a bit strange if I went to McDonalds wearing my McDonads sweater, shoes, pants, and hat?  Let me take this one step further.

How do you feel about people who go a  Star Trek convention and dress up like Klingons and speak Klingon and haven't ever been in any of the movies?

Just saying...

[EDIT] The more I think about it, this is probably the most "girlie" statement that I have made on this board.  Now that I think about it, dudes don't care about this kind of thing.  Women care more about outfits than guys do.  Carry on... carry on...  Rock that red/white/green on your Ducati.  I'll be wearing the black leather with the cutesy white skull on it.

[Spidey]

How do you feel about people who go a  Star Trek convention and dress up like Klingons and speak Klingon and haven't ever been in any of the movies?

funny star wars nerds part 1

funny star wars nerds part 2

[monster2b]

I don't think it's duc riders in general.  I saw a desmo at Hell's Kitchen this weekend. As we were hangin around outside this guy comes out with an entourage and wearing the Ducati Corse one piece leathers. We started talking to him.  Nice guy, if not a little too Hollywood.  His buddies were riding 1098 or S4RS's. Damn if the D16 doesn't make the sweetest sound ever!

[Vindingo]

P.S.  Don't ever ride with Vin.  He's a f'n low-rent f'n scumbag.   

I cant even pretend that you are lying...  


I thought the people in the MOB were a bunch of snobs before I met them... no I know they are.