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Author Topic: 07 S2R1K - Rear brake doesnt seem to do much of anything - help !  (Read 7288 times)
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« Reply #15 on: May 21, 2009, 03:41:36 PM »

But I also recommend checking out Monsterparts.com it is the source of all monster yumminess. You can call Jeff and ask him to recommend you a set depending on what you need. Seriously though, dealing with monsterparts will restore your faith on customer service. Plus you get a 10% discount if you mention that you're from the board.  

Plus it doesn't hurt that the owner of monsterparts actually posted on this thread  Grin
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« Reply #16 on: May 21, 2009, 05:15:18 PM »

Ducati's have rear brakes? 

Seriously, except for infield excursions on the track and holding the bike still while stopped on a hill, why do you use it?

When I stop in a hurry my back wheel is barely touching the ground.  I recently had a car pull out of a parking lot and cross three lanes of highway traffic to get to the left turn lane.  I progressively squeezed the front brake until the back was barely skimming across the ground and the front tire started to wash out.  I slid the front a little, reduced pressure, and regained traction.  Had I even touched the back brake it would have stopped spinning.  The result would have been no gyroscopic force from the rear, no traction from the rear as it would be skidding, and a potential high side.

Some racers will install a valve spring on the rear brake to make it harder to lock up.  Unless you are a stunter, locking the rear brake is generally a bad idea.
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« Reply #17 on: May 21, 2009, 05:47:54 PM »

Ducati's have rear brakes? 

Seriously, except for infield excursions on the track and holding the bike still while stopped on a hill, why do you use it?

When I stop in a hurry my back wheel is barely touching the ground.  I recently had a car pull out of a parking lot and cross three lanes of highway traffic to get to the left turn lane.  I progressively squeezed the front brake until the back was barely skimming across the ground and the front tire started to wash out.  I slid the front a little, reduced pressure, and regained traction.  Had I even touched the back brake it would have stopped spinning.  The result would have been no gyroscopic force from the rear, no traction from the rear as it would be skidding, and a potential high side.

Some racers will install a valve spring on the rear brake to make it harder to lock up.  Unless you are a stunter, locking the rear brake is generally a bad idea.

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« Reply #18 on: May 21, 2009, 05:50:00 PM »

in all seriousness,...i sometimes find myself depressing the rear brake just to remind myself that it is there (in theory.)
have never used it except to test the brake lights before a ride
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« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2009, 06:42:11 PM »

You should be able to lock the back brake.  Is the pedal hard or mushy?  How much travel?  If your caliper is mounted below the axle you need to remove the caliper, turn it so the bleed screw faces up and put something between the brake pads that is about the thickness of the rotor.  Now you are ready to bleed.

Drum brakes are actually more aggressive than discs and lock easily, particularly on motorcycles where they like using leading leading brake shoes.  They are also much more prone to heat and water fade.
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« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2009, 07:35:28 PM »

While I realize the rear brake/engine brake is more like a rudder in some riding stituations, I use it as my primary when in sub-10mph parking lot situations. Real low speeds and good front brakes will wash the front end in a instant.

For more fun info on braking...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_braking
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« Reply #21 on: May 22, 2009, 02:44:05 AM »

They lock on real good if you inadvertently adjust them for too little clearance on the return, so they can work  bang head. But in normal use mine feels pretty weak compared to most other bikes I've owned.
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« Reply #22 on: May 22, 2009, 03:33:01 AM »

I mainly use the rear brake (or wish I could) when coming to a compleye stop say at a red light, stop sign, in stop & go traffic, etc..And for the record the last thing I am is a "stunter", just need alittle more outta my rear brake (thats all)...

Going to remove the caliper and try bleeding it again this weekend.
If that doesnt do it I am going t try and get those other brake pads and see if that helps..
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« Reply #23 on: May 22, 2009, 06:37:22 AM »

I mainly use the rear brake (or wish I could) when coming to a compleye stop say at a red light, stop sign, in stop & go traffic, etc..
And for the record the last thing I am is a "stunter", just need alittle more outta my rear brake (thats all)...

Going to remove the caliper and try bleeding it again this weekend.
If that doesnt do it I am going t try and get those other brake pads and see if that helps..

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« Reply #24 on: May 22, 2009, 08:00:15 AM »

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« Reply #25 on: May 22, 2009, 08:34:39 AM »

I am a ex drag racer (car), so I like to go fast in a straight line.
High speed turns and crap really arent my style (but are fun once ina while)...

So basically all I can do is re-bleed the rear and possibily switch to a different pad ?
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« Reply #26 on: May 22, 2009, 08:43:16 AM »

I am a ex drag racer (car), so I like to go fast in a straight line.
High speed turns and crap really arent my style (but are fun once ina while)...

Nothing wrong with that.  But, you should still be using the front brake to do 99% of your stopping on a Monster.
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« Reply #27 on: May 22, 2009, 09:20:09 AM »

I am a ex drag racer (car), so I like to go fast in a straight line.
High speed turns and crap really arent my style (but are fun once ina while)...

So basically all I can do is re-bleed the rear and possibily switch to a different pad ?

I was just messing with you.  Wink

Yeah, try the re-bleed with the banjo bolts facing up and you might want to leave the brake actuated overnight. If that doesn't work try the new pads
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« Reply #28 on: May 22, 2009, 09:44:22 AM »

Nothing wrong with that.  But, you should still be using the front brake to do 99% of your stopping on a Monster.
Believe me bud, I do..
Just want alittle more outta the rear if possibile...
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« Reply #29 on: May 25, 2009, 07:24:12 AM »

Anyone running those "wave" rotors in place of their stockers ?
Would it be worth the cost to replace the stock rotor in the rear with one those wave deals ?
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