Tire ratings

Started by red baron, May 18, 2008, 08:36:49 PM

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koko64

Liking the turn in on the Power 3s.
2015 Scrambler 800

Dirty Duc

I've now ridden my father's M900 with the Shinko 705s... not too shabby if your ride includes some gravel. His suspension is a bit weathered, but the tires allow a surprising amount of front braking in the skiddy stuff.

koko64

Anyone try the Pirelli Rosso III? They are a new release. Pirelli used to be the most expensive tyre down here, but an Angel ST rear is now 50 bucks cheaper than a Michy PR4.
2015 Scrambler 800

Howie

My bike is now sporting Bridgestone Battlax Hypersport S21 tires.  Incredible!  Improved turn in and a smooth ride.

NAKID

#199
Sorry, this is kind of a cross post from another thread. I didn't know this one was here.

Here is a picture of my Angel GT with over 12,000 miles on it. Looks like it's probably got 4-5 more.



Although it is a different size than the stock (190/55/17 vs 180/60/17) I haven't too much of an issue with the Traction Control. I did bump the settings from a 4 to a 3 for some mild intervention during sharp corner exits. No noticeable slippage.
I would rather stay stock size as this one has my speedo (and thus odometer) reading slightly higher than it should.
2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

ducpainter

Quote from: NAKID on October 28, 2016, 08:51:54 AM
Sorry, this is kind of a cross post from another thread. I didn't know this one was here.

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NAKID

Quote from: ducpainter on October 30, 2016, 12:00:03 PM
You missed it for 8 1/2 years? [roll] :-*

I tend to not even notice the pinned threads...
2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

ducpainter

Quote from: NAKID on October 31, 2016, 08:16:26 AM
I tend to not even notice the pinned threads...
You're not alone.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent.”



koko64

I posted in racing and track days, but anyone try Dunlop superbike slicks? I used them years ago and found they gave less grip than Micheys but really talked to you.
Coming off Pirelli SBK slicks that are toast. Bike is Gixxer 750 which are now recommended 120/190 in current slicks (used to be 120/180).
2015 Scrambler 800

NAKID

So I replaced the rear with another Angel GT. I wasn't yet showing cord, but it was quite thin. It lasted a total of just over 13000 miles. I'm happy with that!
2005 S2R800
2006 S2R1000
2015 Monster 821

koko64

Anyone come across Michelin Pilot Street in 120/70/17 & 180/55/17? Supposed to be a sportier version of the Pilot Road 2 tyres with a more triangulated profile?
2015 Scrambler 800

koko64

My Michy Pilot Power 3 rear only lasted a few thousand kms on the Hyper. Put a Pilot Road 4 on the back for some longevity. The PP3 front shows minimal wear however 8).
2015 Scrambler 800

koko64

#207
Doing similar with my M900. Pilot Road 2 on the rear and Pilot Power 3 on the front.
I had to fit the PP3 up front after trying a Metzler Roadtec Z8 sport touring tyre. The Z8 appears to be well suited to heavier sport touring bikes and my svelte little Monster could not warm up the tyre even on hot days and hard runs. I got back from a three hour ride on a 90° day and the Z8 was cool to the touch while the rear Michy was warm. I had the front regularly chirp under braking and once lock up at 60 mph. Reducing psi did not fix this. Clearly a too heavy construction and hard compound for my 175kg dry M900.
I'm sure not a bad tyre, but more a bad tyre selection on my part. The PP3 up front will restore my confidence.
2015 Scrambler 800

koko64

#208
Tyre update.
Confidence restored. After a morning ride with temps starting at 75° and ending at 100° through our local mountains and valleys, feel and grip returned with both the front PP3 and rear PR2 getting nice and warm becoming grippy quite quickly. This allowed good lean angles and acceleration off corners with smoother, faster corner entries and transitions through the esses. Braking feedback returned as did front end feel carrying momentum into corners. While I limit trail braking and hard braking over bad bumps on the street,  I could do so with caution.  I was comfortable part hanging off "one cheek street style" and did some great hill climbing. Made for enjoyable riding at a spirited (but not silly) pace. A riding mate noticed the difference.
In this environment the Monster shines.
2015 Scrambler 800

koko64

Since changing from the Metzler Z8 Roadtec to the Michelin Pilot Power 3, my bike's speedo reads differently. Speed checking against my buddy's MTS1100 at 100kmh (60mphish), revealed the Metzler having a taller profile reading 9-10km low while the Michy read 3km high. Since both were 120/70/17 tyres, it demonstrates how different tyre brands and even tyre models vary in size despite the numbers on the sidewall. It's certainly a tall tyre to throw the speedo out as much as it did. Shades of how 180/55/17 Dunlop Qualifiers were as wide as other brands 190s.
2015 Scrambler 800