Changing Oil Brand !!

[loony888]

Well, thats a HUGE increase in a short period of time ?? The Repco man said that it doesnt need to sold at that price ! The word he used was "exorbitant" ! But you can  get THAT oil at bike shops? 

well that has to be the quote of the month!!!
REPCO!!!! calling someone elses price exorbitant! i thought i'd heard it all.
you know what repco stands for don't you?
R ip  E very  P oor  C *#t  Off !


paul.

[dragonworld.]

well that has to be the quote of the month!!!
REPCO!!!! calling someone elses price exorbitant! i thought i'd heard it all.
you know what repco stands for don't you?
R ip  E very  P oor  C *#t  Off !


paul.

Down here in Frankston I've found Repco to be very competitive with Bursons with Autopro and even so called "Supercheap" some of the dearest places. 

+1 on the oil stuff Paul! 

I dont mind paying top dollar for a product or service when it is obvious its the best and a cut above the rest! But Shell/Motonational can take a flying jump! 

And the money I save I can spend on some bits or bling for my beast. (No, that aint the Missus!!  )

[MonsterDorf]

My son works for Repco and he can't even get a discount on oil (everything else is good though). So I guess they don't make too much on oil (compared to all the other stuff).

All of the major brands have a search tool for oil and I for one like to use full synthetic.

[bazz20]

 i new this would open a can of worms but just trying tell people there is a cheaper oil that out dose a lot so call bike oils ,went to couple of bike shops to day and super cheap as well to check up further on my own research i must have been hidding under a rock the price of oil has sky rocketed to out of this world 100 bucks for 5 litres mobil 1 car oil and the new mobil 1 is not for bikes now and the bike mobil 1 was 90 bucks for 4 litres and couldnt get it in the right weight only 20 w 50 but one thing i did notice about all the bike oils was the highest rating oil was api sl the same as delo 400  and dont forget delo has gone synthetic now , thanks loony for the info ,why is this oil cheaper because they sell shit loads and with diesels cars becoming more popular all the major brands are in competition not like the bike shops , as for high detergents go caltexs  info line says when swiching over to delo only run for a thousand kays then do another change thats on high  mileage engines ,i hope this helps cause im not paying 120 bucks to just change the oil and from what of found we can no longer rely on car oils now  cheers bazz

[dragonworld.]

Yep, looks like we are being "done over " again!? 

We get screwed by petrol companies, cos if you want to drive/ride you have to pay the price of fuel !! 

And these same companies are doing the same now with the other substance that vehicles MUST have !? 

And of course, np government will do shit about it because the higher the price the better the GST take. 

Bend over ladies and genitalmen while you get it in the chocolate starfish yet again! 

Now where to get a bulk supply of oil ?? 

[brad black]

what variety of shell advance was it?

[dragonworld.]

what variety of shell advance was it?

Shell Ultra 4.

[DUCMONROB]

I remember when you could buy 5 litres of oil for the car for $15.

Oh those were the days!

[ducsport]

I remember when you could buy 5 litres of oil for the car for $15.

Oh those were the days!

Me too  Showin our age there ...

[brad black]

you still can - try any of the big dept stores or supermarkets.  you should be able to get oil under $2/litre.

dragonwolrd - try vsx4 instead, it's much cheaper -$60 for 4 litres.  and thicker - 15-50 versus 10-40.  if you've been buying ultra 4 for around that then they've been selling it at about cost.  it's been $23 or so per litre as long as i've had it, and back when i was at moto too i'm sure.

interestingly the retail for shell advance oils usually has the 4 litre pack about 20% cheaper per litre than a 1 litre pack, and they recommend bulk oil be sold at the 1 litre bottle price.  i had this discussion with them years ago and noticed it again when i started.  vsx4 is $15 per litre in a 4 litre pack, but recommended to be sold for around $18 (or $17, something like that) when it comes out of a 205l drum.

or use any of the diesel stuff.  i was surprised how light the diesel stuff is - i thought it'd be 20-50 at least.  i tried to get a drum of basic rimula x thru moto national (who i buy from) for my dad's farm stuff.  they don't normally handle it, so would have been the usual hassle to sort and turned out to be about 10% more than he buys it for in 20l from the local farm supply place.  almost the same price as the synthetic rimula x, which i can buy from moto national.

we had some ultra racing 10w-60 at moto we used in the sxv aprilias.  very expensive stuff.  i tried to get some through moto national, but no go.  got onto the shell car oil people who handle it and they could give me a buying price, but not a recommended retail.  if they gave me a recommended retail that constituted price fixing.  so i asked them how much i should sell it for, and they said we don't know, we can't tell you.  that's some strange shit.

[bazz20]

he is some info

API

This is the more basic as it is split (for passenger cars) into two catagories. S = Petrol and C = Diesel, most oils carry both petrol (S) and diesel (C) specifications.

The following table shows how up to date the specifications the oil are:

PETROL

SG - Introduced 1989 has much more active dispersant to combat black sludge.

SH - Introduced 1993 has same engine tests as SG, but includes phosphorus limit 0.12%, together with control of foam, volatility and shear stability.

SJ - Introduced 1996 has the same engine tests as SG/SH, but phosphorus limit 0.10% together with variation on volatility limits

SL - Introduced 2001, all new engine tests reflective of modern engine designs meeting current emissions standards

SM - Introduced November 2004, improved oxidation resistance, deposit protection and wear protection, also better low temperature performance over the life of the oil compared to previous categories.

Note:

All specifications prior to SL are now obsolete and although suitable for some older vehicles are more than 10 years old and do not provide the same level of performance or protection as the more up to date SL and SM specifications.

and if people are worried about high detergent oils ducati says in there work shop manuals to use a high detergent oil , you will notice in the above oil api ratings that as modern oils are being made there sulfur levels have droped and detergent levels have increased to the point now that there is very little difference between diesel and petrol oil   , cheers bazz

[madalf71]

Howdy All.

So this diesel stuff, my guess would be a it's a no go for wet clutches, can anyone confirm this?

At work we've been having some supply issues of certain Shell slideway oils, and been told about shortages of other synthetic products, wonder if it's a supply verses demand driving up the price? This has been going on since Feb.

And Brad you're not the only one who has had the odd Shell experience.

Cherrio.

[bazz20]

Howdy All.

So this diesel stuff, my guess would be a it's a no go for wet clutches, can anyone confirm this?

its  fine in wet clutches , more people are running it wet clutches than dry cheers bazz

[monstermick58]

And now onto oil filters.....................

In a nut shell.. K & N . Its got the little nut welded at the end so you can use a spanner on it, instead of stuffing around with oil filter wrenches. I remember reading some report on oil filters and when it came to quality of the filter element and the construction of the bypass valve K&N was up there with the best, it was just curious that the filter inside was coloured red, but with that little nut on the end it just made everyones job a little easier.





                                           Mmick

[bazz20]

whats the numbers please mick k&n-----! cheers bazz