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Author Topic: Clip-ons v. Standard/original bars  (Read 9840 times)
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« Reply #30 on: August 24, 2008, 05:11:45 AM »

part of the problem with clipons and the monster (for a lot of ppl) is the shape of the tank.  if you look at hte other bikes that come with clipons (900ss,sbk) the tank is "humped" where your stomach goes so you can support your upper body with your gut.  not so on the Monster.

maybe look into a tank pad and support yourself with it. 

also, many people have weak lower back and stomach muscles.  time to do some crunches?
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« Reply #31 on: August 27, 2008, 05:06:10 AM »

Shortie (5'2-3/4") and light (maybe 100 lbs) chic w/back and neck "issues"=hubbi wants to put his old stock Speed Triple Bars on my '09 696-get me more upright/comfortable. Will this work?
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« Reply #32 on: August 27, 2008, 05:26:54 AM »

Shortie (5'2-3/4") and light (maybe 100 lbs) chic w/back and neck "issues"=hubbi wants to put his old stock Speed Triple Bars on my '09 696-get me more upright/comfortable. Will this work?
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How will you mount the S3's bars? 

I doubt it will fit without machining some risers or making a new top triple. 

The 696 has risers on the triple.  See if someone makes a spacer to make them higher.  Best use what you have.

Bear in mind that raising the bars may mean you'll have to swap out the throttle cable and brake/clutch hoses for longer ones.

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« Reply #33 on: August 27, 2008, 05:35:57 PM »

I had to have custom brake and clutch hoses and a custom throttle cable made for my S4Rs/Brutale swap.  Luckily, the handlebar switchgear wiring had enough "extra" in it to reach.

It looks to me as if the 696 has a standard 7/8" tubular steel bar, so the Speed Triple bar ought to bolt right onto the triple clamp risers without issue.  Whether the brake and clutch and throttle and electical cabling will reach is another question....

Hubbi's Speedie is a 2006 and says his bars are about same diameter as the 696's....so should work, he thinks. He also says the 696 has a LOT of "extra" brake cable, so should not be a prob, but MAY be tight w/clutch-I could be wrong tho.  One thing he mentions he is concerned about tho is clearance and for steering lock with Speedie bars. Hmm.  SOOO grateful for input guys, btw, also!! 
Thinkin gonna wait for Pazzo Shorties, ride it bit n see how all feels before making any other changes.  Step at a time, eh?   chug
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« Reply #34 on: September 01, 2008, 09:02:02 PM »

Standard bars sucked.  I have tried various clip-ons and clubmans.  Tommaselli, Harrris, Cycle Cat to name.  Besides being ultra cool my Monster is caffinated with rearsets, contis reps and etc.  Clipons are way better for me.  I have a good BEER muscle that makes resting on the tank fine,  I will do 400 plus miles  a day and not suffer worse than my friends on less extreme machines.  I have ended up with bars above the riser for easy changes (spotbike forks) this also makes them the same height as on my 78  Bonneville (also caffinated).  I am 200# 5'5" and over 60 years old an old skool Rocker. [moto]
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« Reply #35 on: September 02, 2008, 01:03:43 PM »

I recently flipped the bars on my S4rs as well as taking off the fairing. For me, having spent my biking life riding sports bikes I felt the bars where too high standard and didn't give me enough feedback as to what the front end was doing. Now, it feels much better and I am more confident to push the front. It does, not surprisingly put more pressure on your wrists but to a degree, the removal of the fairing helps (which I found buffeted my head too much - now I get an even blast). Even so, it is still much more comfortable than my previous 748. All of this is rather annoying as I bought a set of Tommasellis that have not been used and will now not be needed....Any takers?
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« Reply #36 on: September 03, 2008, 08:30:11 AM »

I put Tomassellis on last winter.
I am 5'10" and find it really comfortable, you have to grip the tank more with your legs and take a
litlle weight off your wrists. Two other pluses for me are the look - real cafe racer, and the handling -
the front feels much more planted now.
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« Reply #37 on: September 03, 2008, 07:52:38 PM »

I put Tomassellis on last winter.
I am 5'10" and find it really comfortable, you have to grip the tank more with your legs and take a
litlle weight off your wrists. Two other pluses for me are the look - real cafe racer, and the handling -
the front feels much more planted now.

which tomassellis?

i have some old school adjustable tomaselli's on a pantah, i love them.
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« Reply #38 on: July 07, 2009, 02:06:19 PM »

old topic but I wanted to add my thoughts...

I originally switched to Suburban Machinery bars but they got bent, to be honest I bought those bars because the cost of clip ons and a triple was too much. Fast forward a bit and I ended up getting the clip ons and triple anyways.

After having new holes drilled in the Suburban bars I think they were ideal for my comfort, probably similar to clip ons with a riser. Currently I have woodcraft clip ons mounted under my speedy moto triple, it looks awesome but not always as comfortable as the stock bars or the Suburban set.

I am 6ft and currently 230lbs, I am evenly distributes but still I very much want to lose 30 pounds, I think if I lose some baggage the clip ons will be more comfortable. I don't think it's uncomfortable enough to complain of back or wrist pain, I just think the stock position was very relaxing, with the stock bars I could lean back and crouch like a fat guy on a cruiser. I liked lounging on the stock bar setup, it was very relaxing, however I hated the look of the stock bar. For me that's it, I will sacrifice some comfort for good looks, I just think clip ons look that good. We are all human, I see woman wearing $500 heels and you can tell they are not comfortable, to me a Monster with clip ons is the same thing. The decrease in comfort is worth the improvement to the aethetics of the machine.

I will also say the performace is better with the clip ons. It's like the bike feels faster because of the positioning, just on the long rides takes a little more stamina than the original bars.
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« Reply #39 on: July 08, 2009, 12:06:58 PM »

if you look at hte other bikes that come with clipons (900ss,sbk) the tank is "humped" where your stomach goes so you can support your upper body with your gut.  not so on the Monster.

maybe look into a tank pad and support yourself with it. 

i have the bagster (or dp) bra and tank bag, which i lay on to take weight off my wrists at high speeds in a low crouch.
my grandfather has mentioned he does too

im 6'2 with above triple clipons and as others said. i definitely need the reach. i feel very strange on a monster with regular bars
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« Reply #40 on: July 08, 2009, 05:28:27 PM »

Fast forward from MY last post.  Still love the Rizomas, except on the track  bang head
along with lack of rear-sets and being too lazy to remove sidestand which, btw, WILLLLLL scrape in T8 ooops  Shocked
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