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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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Reply #2265 on:
February 11, 2012, 06:17:40 PM »
Quote from: Gardein on February 09, 2012, 12:41:00 PM
No tank replacement was deemed necessary for my bike.. Ducati is having my dealership fit the "fuel tank fitting kit" specified in page 9 section C of the settlement agreement (reference
http://www.girardgibbs.com/ducati-settlement-agreement.pdf
) to correct for the expansion of my 2006 S2R 1000 tank. The tank is way off one of the side mounts, can not be latched in front, and is pressing upon the ignition assembly. I'll update after this weekend with how it all fits together - I'll be surprised if the seat will fit and latch correctly after moving the tank backward.
The fit kit tweak centered the tank and moved it a small bit to the back - though the front clearance to the ignition switch assembly is still nonexistent. The stock seat fits and latches. I will hold my breath for a few months and see if it remains workable. Fortunately I have no bubbles or ripples in the tank so I can live with it for now.
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February 11, 2012, 06:33:50 PM »
Quote from: Gardein on February 11, 2012, 06:17:40 PM
The fit kit tweak centered the tank and moved it a small bit to the back - though the front clearance to the ignition switch assembly is still nonexistent. The stock seat fits and latches. I will hold my breath for a few months and see if it remains workable. Fortunately I have no bubbles or ripples in the tank so I can live with it for now.
Are you able to get that latch open and closed on the tank easily now? I can see that happening to me as my tank has no dents or ripples just pushing against the ignition and off centered
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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February 11, 2012, 06:52:04 PM »
Quote from: Gardein on February 11, 2012, 06:17:40 PM
The fit kit tweak centered the tank and moved it a small bit to the back - though the front clearance to the ignition switch assembly is still nonexistent. The stock seat fits and latches. I will hold my breath for a few months and see if it remains workable. Fortunately I have no bubbles or ripples in the tank so I can live with it for now.
so what happens when you drain the tank and it shrinks back?
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February 18, 2012, 12:26:44 PM »
Just a quick update, my dealership got me approved for a tank replacement! Very happy with that, I plan on buying a 14 gallon gas container to keep in the garage and will only use non-ethanol gas, unless I can find a coating that will work.
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February 18, 2012, 12:53:14 PM »
Not tank related per se but close:
http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=47304
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February 18, 2012, 02:31:33 PM »
been there done that with the 4-wheel vehicles... hooray rubbers.
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February 27, 2012, 04:27:23 PM »
How do they decide who to give a new tank to and who to give a kit to? I'd be very interested to see pics of the pads to hold the tank to the frame that are in so called kit. What is the better temporary short term solution? K100 or Stabil? I heard that stabil doesn't even work, which makes me wonder why they told me to put it in at the dealership.
So from my understanding the only thing that can be done to mitigate the expansion are
1) Completely emptying or filling the tank between storing periods
2) Use an additive (K100/Stabil)
3) Coat the inside of the tank (Casewell)
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February 28, 2012, 05:07:23 AM »
Quote from: uclabiker06 on February 27, 2012, 04:27:23 PM
So from my understanding the only thing that can be done to mitigate the expansion are
1) Completely emptying or filling the tank between storing periods
2) Use an additive (K100/Stabil)
3) Coat the inside of the tank (Casewell)
Yes.
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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February 28, 2012, 05:24:19 AM »
Quote from: uclabiker06 on February 27, 2012, 04:27:23 PM
So from my understanding the only thing that can be done to mitigate the expansion are
1) Completely emptying
yes
or filling the tank between storing periods
doubt it
2) Use an additive (K100
maybe
/Stabil
no
)
3) Coat the inside of the tank (Casewell)
this, and be done.
Quote from: ducatiz on January 14, 2012, 08:49:51 AM
Nothing removes water from fuel once it's mixed in. (well, maybe combustion but you know what I mean...)
K100 apparently "sequesters" the water so it does not fully separate.
There is very little along the fuel path that would be harmed by the presence of water in solution -- except for the nylon tank.
The only reason I have said take a look at K100 is that they provided me with a 3rd party (customer-a refinery owned by Lukoil) test of the fuel. K100 did not pay for the test nor did they request it, the customer wanted to test it to see if it would help in their changeover from G100 to G90 (i.e. E10) gasoline.
I also contacted the makers of Stabil and Startron and they refused to provide anything, they emailed me literature that they produced.
My position is that NO fuel treatment should be left in a NYLON tank in the hopes of preventing water separation. K100 looks like it actually has some success in dealing with water present, but if you're using your bike regularly and you are using a fuel treatment for short terms, then it might help some as it may keep the water from separating for a short term.
All of these fuel treatments help gasoline burn a little hotter intermittently so negative effects of the presence of water are mitigated. You'll suffer a little in performance, but it wont gag your engine.
The only question I have is what effect will the fuel additive have on water in the fuel mixture and how long will it prevent it from separating and therefore, direct contact with the NYLON tank's wall?
(As a side comment, putting a small amount of water into your intakes
will not destroy your engine
. Google "decoke pistons" and you can see videos of people spraying small amounts of water into a carburetor or diesel intake to help get crap off the pistons. Likewise, there are water mist sprayers used for performance which spray a mist of water directly into the intake during load.)
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February 28, 2012, 05:06:04 PM »
What if they later on figure out a way to fix the problem and then they say we can't help you b/c you tampered with your tank by putting this coating in it? Ef that! I am going to do what the dealer said to do and if my tank expands they will keep giving me another one. UNREASONABLE to the max.
I called gerald and gibbs or whatever the name of that firm is and they didn't get back to me. Time to give them another call or two and I encourage all of you to do the same. IT IS NOT REASONABLE TO EXPECT CUSOTOMERS TO COAT THEIR TANKS WITHOUT DUCATI EVEN INFORMING THEM THAT COATING IS AN OPTION. IT IS NOT REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT ALL OWNERS WILL GO ON THIS FORUM AND FIND OUT ABOUT IT. I really don't get this. Ducatiz help me out here...your a lawyer right?
CLEARLY THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE NOT JUST COSMETIC. Fine the coating does not meet polution standards that Ducati must abide by, but can't the judge bypass that in the name of safety? Afterall Casewell is allowed to sell it! Its not like its a tail peice or something; its the freaking fuel tank on the bike. If it expands enought it can and will impact stearing radius and cause leaks. IF YOU CAN'T UNLATCH THE TANK B/C ITS PRESSED AGAINST THE IGNITION THAT IS NOT COSMETIC ONLY!
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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Quote from: uclabiker06 on February 28, 2012, 05:06:04 PM
What if they later on figure out a way to fix the problem and then they say we can't help you b/c you tampered with your tank by putting this coating in it? Ef that! I am going to do what the dealer said to do and if my tank expands they will keep giving me another one. UNREASONABLE to the max.
I called gerald and gibbs or whatever the name of that firm is and they didn't get back to me. Time to give them another call or two and I encourage all of you to do the same. IT IS NOT REASONABLE TO EXPECT CUSOTOMERS TO COAT THEIR TANKS WITHOUT DUCATI EVEN INFORMING THEM THAT COATING IS AN OPTION. IT IS NOT REASONABLE TO EXPECT THAT ALL OWNERS WILL GO ON THIS FORUM AND FIND OUT ABOUT IT. I really don't get this. Ducatiz help me out here...your a lawyer right?
CLEARLY THERE IS A SAFETY ISSUE NOT JUST COSMETIC. Fine the coating does not meet polution standards that Ducati must abide by, but can't the judge bypass that in the name of safety? Afterall Casewell is allowed to sell it! Its not like its a tail peice or something; its the freaking fuel tank on the bike. If it expands enought it can and will impact stearing radius and cause leaks. IF YOU CAN'T UNLATCH THE TANK B/C ITS PRESSED AGAINST THE IGNITION THAT IS NOT COSMETIC ONLY!
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True...
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The unfortunate truth is the class action has been adjudicated, and you have to live with the decision.
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Dang, u sure? How could that be possible?
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