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Author Topic: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates  (Read 714905 times)
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« Reply #2415 on: May 15, 2012, 07:23:21 AM »
http://www.ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=54297.msg1004734#msg1004734

That thread is pretty good.
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« Reply #2416 on: May 15, 2012, 10:48:03 AM »
OK, I'm back with one more question to make this thread even longer Smiley

I called the dealer to setup a appointment to get the tank swapped and pick up the new one to coat it. The person I spoke to said that if I coat the tank and it ever expands again it will not be replaced. Because coating it voids the warranty.

Now I'm back on the fence to coat it our just use some kind of additive reduce the moisture in the tank.

Has anyone heard the warranty issue before?
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« Reply #2417 on: May 15, 2012, 11:23:39 AM »
Quote from: K3V1N on May 15, 2012, 10:48:03 AM
OK, I'm back with one more question to make this thread even longer Smiley

I called the dealer to setup a appointment to get the tank swapped and pick up the new one to coat it. The person I spoke to said that if I coat the tank and it ever expands again it will not be replaced. Because coating it voids the warranty.

Now I'm back on the fence to coat it our just use some kind of additive reduce the moisture in the tank.

Has anyone heard the warranty issue before?

IF the coating fails AND it is directly related to some kind of tank failure then it would void the warranty, but that is an issue of proof under the law.

Let's say your engine blows and you have a coated tank.  Voided warranty?  Not likely.  The fuel pump and filter would pick up any material.

In fact, I can think of nothing outside of the tank itself that the coating could affect even if it failed miserably -- and the tank failure would be limited to an expanding tank, which you already have.

Most service/dealer people know warranty law slightly worse than I know how to pilot the space shuttle.
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« Reply #2418 on: May 15, 2012, 11:41:29 AM »
My dealer told me the same thing.  I followed the same logic Ducatiz just outlined, and in addition considered the fact that I'm unlikely to get another shot at the (replacement tank) apple anyway, since my bike is a 2006 MY and will very shortly be outside the scope of the settlement.  Also, if the coated replacement tank does expand also, and I take it to a different dealer, I think it's questionable whether they could determine that it was coated (or would care, when filing the claim with Ducati).  So taking all of the above into account, I got my new tank coated before reinstalling and filling it with fuel the first time, despite the warning from my dealer.

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Quote from: K3V1N on May 15, 2012, 10:48:03 AM

I called the dealer to setup a appointment to get the tank swapped and pick up the new one to coat it. The person I spoke to said that if I coat the tank and it ever expands again it will not be replaced. Because coating it voids the warranty.

Has anyone heard the warranty issue before?
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« Reply #2419 on: May 15, 2012, 12:57:04 PM »
Thanks, After reading these two post I agree and plan on coating it. You guys are right it isn't likely I would get another tank for a 07 S2R so I should coat it AND use a additive to control moisture to keep it from swelling as long as I can.
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« Reply #2420 on: May 15, 2012, 01:31:12 PM »
Just got my monster 795, I took it out for a spin. After an hour, it overheated, then I heard popping sounds, I was surprised it was the tank.  I hurried home and while parked, I literally saw the whole tank popped off
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« Reply #2421 on: May 15, 2012, 05:32:17 PM »
Quote from: surgfish on May 15, 2012, 01:31:12 PM
Just got my monster 795, I took it out for a spin. After an hour, it overheated, then I heard popping sounds, I was surprised it was the tank.  I hurried home and while parked, I literally saw the whole tank popped off

the whole tank popped off???

what does that mean?

the M795 is an Asian market bike, I've never seen one in person..  but it has the same tank as the 696 i think
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« Reply #2422 on: May 16, 2012, 03:36:37 AM »
Quote from: surgfish on May 15, 2012, 01:31:12 PM
Just got my monster 795, I took it out for a spin. After an hour, it overheated, then I heard popping sounds, I was surprised it was the tank.  I hurried home and while parked, I literally saw the whole tank popped off
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« Reply #2423 on: May 16, 2012, 03:56:02 AM »
Pics.
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« Reply #2424 on: May 16, 2012, 06:03:20 AM »
Quote from: surgfish on May 15, 2012, 01:31:12 PM
Just got my monster 795, I took it out for a spin. After an hour, it overheated, then I heard popping sounds, I was surprised it was the tank.  I hurried home and while parked, I literally saw the whole tank popped off

Gimme a break....   Huh?

If you would have kept watching, maybe it would have performed some more tricks for you. Like the trellis-samba rubber-down twist.
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« Reply #2425 on: May 16, 2012, 10:40:57 AM »
Quote from: ducpainter on May 10, 2012, 04:55:25 PM
ding ding ding...

So a 2011 796 shouldn't be an issue with the tank expanding?  I'm not that familiar with the bike yet, but I haven't seen anything unusual with it, other than a new noise that's driving me nuts.  bang head
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« Reply #2426 on: May 16, 2012, 10:44:19 AM »
Quote from: SteveO. on May 16, 2012, 10:40:57 AM
So a 2011 796 shouldn't be an issue with the tank expanding?  I'm not that familiar with the bike yet, but I haven't seen anything unusual with it, other than a new noise that's driving me nuts.  bang head

AFAIK, the 796 tank is a PA6 tank and will deform.  The 796 has a covered tank though so you may never see it.
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« Reply #2427 on: May 16, 2012, 10:55:34 AM »
Quote from: ducatiz on May 16, 2012, 10:44:19 AM
AFAIK, the 796 tank is a PA6 tank and will deform.  The 796 has a covered tank though so you may never see it.

So should I be concerned about it, if it'll never be noticable?  Thanks for the info, I'm a noob trying to learn more about my new bike. ...Steve
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« Reply #2428 on: May 16, 2012, 11:19:34 AM »
Quote from: SteveO. on May 16, 2012, 10:55:34 AM
So should I be concerned about it, if it'll never be noticable?  Thanks for the info, I'm a noob trying to learn more about my new bike. ...Steve

Some folks have reported the panels being pushed out but I think that's the exception.  A little bit of preventive medicine (i.e. draining the tank when in storage) goes a long way to keeping the tank from absorbing water etc.
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« Reply #2429 on: May 16, 2012, 11:54:35 AM »
Quote from: ducatiz on May 16, 2012, 11:19:34 AM
Some folks have reported the panels being pushed out but I think that's the exception.  A little bit of preventive medicine (i.e. draining the tank when in storage) goes a long way to keeping the tank from absorbing water etc.

If you top-up after every ride, thereby reducing the surface area of fuel exposed to the air, will this help to mitigate absorption?

This has been my running assumption, but I've been wrong before.
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