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Punx Clever
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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June 03, 2012, 01:55:18 PM »
Quote from: Grifo on June 02, 2012, 07:33:20 PM
So I got a new tank, the new "adjustable" hinge bracket and those new fugly oversized rubber mounts on the frame.
Wtf those things are huge and stick out.
The guys at the local shop mentioned a "kit"... got any pictures?
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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Quote from: Curmudgeon on June 02, 2012, 08:07:32 PM
Sooo..., either coat it, or run K100 in it with your E-10.
http://www.k100fueltreatment.com/
Sooo... If this K100 really works, doesn't it eliminate the need to coat? Their website makes it sound like a panacea, but is it heavily weighted toward advertising BS?
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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June 04, 2012, 07:51:12 AM »
Quote from: El-Twin on June 04, 2012, 07:02:54 AM
Sooo... If this K100 really works, doesn't it eliminate the need to coat? Their website makes it sound like a panacea, but is it heavily weighted toward advertising BS?
No idea as I'm still able to run pure gas but ducatiz got independent test results from them which indicates that it does indeed encapsulate a fair amount of water. Want to test it for us?
Several dealers are also recommending the use of K100.
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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June 04, 2012, 07:58:21 AM »
I went back and forth about coating or k100 / Startron / dry gas. In the end I just went for coating the tank. I want to have this bike (S2R1k) for a long time and didn't see Ducati giving me another free tank in 3 or 4 years. If the tank never swells and I only loss a little fuel capacity I will be happy. I ended up putting the full MC kit in and then wiped out as much as I could which was around 1/4 of what went in. I split the kit and thinned it because I was worried about lost capacity but in the end I had a couple spots that didn't cover. On the second coat I used a coat hanger with a piece of rag to paint it on some pieces.
If I had to do it again I would used 3/4 of the kit thinned 5% and get a 3ft vent brush. I would pour it in the fuel pump hole and bush the inside of the tank to get it to cover quicker. then I would put the cover on get it to coat by the pump hole. then take the pump hole cover off lean it to get extra epoxy on the top by the pump hole and wipe it out with gloves and rags.
I really like things to be perfect so it bugs be a little that it has to be coated. I just felt that even if I was really good about additives it could still swell and it was going to cost more in additive than the coating since I put about 8 to k10 a year on the bike.
I would love to hear from someone that has been using additive for a bunch of years with on swelling.
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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June 04, 2012, 08:10:09 AM »
Quote from: Curmudgeon on June 04, 2012, 07:51:12 AM
Want to test it for us?
Several dealers are also recommending the use of K100.
Maybe I will.
I think I'll ping my dealer to see if they have an opinion.
Quote from: K3V1N on June 04, 2012, 07:58:21 AM
I would love to hear from someone that has been using additive for a bunch of years with on swelling.
Me too!
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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Quote from: El-Twin on June 04, 2012, 07:02:54 AM
Sooo... If this K100 really works, doesn't it eliminate the need to coat? Their website makes it sound like a panacea, but is it heavily weighted toward advertising BS?
From what I read in the review, it may not eliminate it but it reduces the amount of potential exposure.
The review was done by Lukoil for their own purposes, not by the makers of K100.
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Quote from: K3V1N on June 04, 2012, 07:58:21 AM
If I had to do it again I would used 3/4 of the kit thinned 5% and get a 3ft vent brush. I would pour it in the fuel pump hole and bush the inside of the tank to get it to cover quicker. then I would put the cover on get it to coat by the pump hole. then take the pump hole cover off lean it to get extra epoxy on the top by the pump hole and wipe it out with gloves and rags.
I made a clear plastic cover for the fuel pump hole and drilled a hole for a stopper.
I put a #9 stopper into the filler hole from the
INSIDE
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I poured in the coating from the fuel pump hole and then put a stopper in from the outside.
I didn't thin mine, but it seems to have coated just fine. I would thin it if I did it again.
vent brush?
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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June 04, 2012, 08:34:08 AM »
Quote from: El-Twin on June 04, 2012, 08:10:09 AM
Maybe I will.
I think I'll ping my dealer to see if they have an opinion.
Me too!
For reasons of liability, if I were you're dealer, I wouldn't suggest anything which they didn't have in writing from DNA. You could ask him whether he's replaced ANY new style tanks though. The last time I spoke to mine, they hadn't, and he's large. LOTS of painted tanks though.
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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June 04, 2012, 08:37:17 AM »
Quote from: Curmudgeon on June 04, 2012, 08:34:08 AM
For reasons of liability, if I were you're dealer, I wouldn't suggest anything which they didn't have in writing from DNA. You could ask him whether he's replaced ANY new style tanks though. The last time I spoke to mine, they hadn't, and he's large. LOTS of painted tanks though.
Under the terms of the settlement, ONLY painted tanks can be replaced.
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June 04, 2012, 08:43:26 AM »
Quote from: ducatiz on June 04, 2012, 08:37:17 AM
Under the terms of the settlement, ONLY painted tanks can be replaced.
Trust YOU to read the fine print.
If I ever HAD an issue, I'd replace mine with a PEX tank from Germany anyway.
Long story short, what DOES DNA say they'll do for a New Monster tank which is causing the covers to bulge? Maybe they think they have the issue under control?
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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June 04, 2012, 08:59:47 AM »
Quote from: Curmudgeon on June 04, 2012, 08:43:26 AM
Long story short, what DOES DNA say they'll do for a New Monster tank which is causing the covers to bulge? Maybe they think they have the issue under control?
Right. For the new Monsters with the skins, you could have an issue and not even know it. In which case I guess it wouldn't be an issue. Would it?
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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June 04, 2012, 10:10:08 AM »
This is the vent brush I got to clean the tank. I would use it if I did it again to paint the caswell on.
http://tinyurl.com/ch3k9zv
I did the same thing for my pump opening.
http://s1165.photobucket.com/albums/q591/M-S2R-1000/?action=view¤t=60068cb5.jpg
I got the idea from a post that could have been yours.
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Quote from: K3V1N on June 04, 2012, 10:10:08 AM
This is the vent brush I got to clean the tank. I would use it if I did it again to paint the caswell on.
http://tinyurl.com/ch3k9zv
I did the same thing for my pump opening.
http://s1165.photobucket.com/albums/q591/M-S2R-1000/?action=view¤t=60068cb5.jpg
I got the idea from a post that could have been yours.
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Quote from: Punx Clever on June 03, 2012, 01:55:18 PM
The guys at the local shop mentioned a "kit"... got any pictures?
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