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DrDesmo
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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November 16, 2010, 11:40:22 AM »
This may be a derby (and likely is) ... but check out the epic thread on D.MS about this, YEOW
http://www.ducati.ms/forums/77-sport-classic/55155-tank-problems-yes-no.html
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November 16, 2010, 11:58:39 AM »
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I signed up with the law firm and they contacted me within 24 hours to chat. They are trying to go after Ducati for breach of the warranty contract. Since Ducati is replacing bad tanks with bad tanks they aren't fulfilling their warranty obligations legally.
Unfortunately this seems to be the only way to a permanent fix.
From MS - I guess people are signing up for the class-action suit.
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Quote from: dark_duc on November 16, 2010, 11:32:49 AM
Went to Hansen's BMW / Ducati / Triumph in Phoenix Oregon and had them look at my mildly deformed tank. They said they hadn't heard any issues with the Monster's tanks, but they took some pics and contacted DNA. They called me a couple days later to let me know that the claim was approved and a replacement tank was on they way. Once arriving they said they would only need an hour with the bike to do the swap. The crew at Hansen's made this a very easy process.
good for them! i bought both my monsters from Mason.
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Quote from: arai_speed on November 16, 2010, 11:58:39 AM
From MS - I guess people are signing up for the class-action suit.
Translation: People are signing up to help make attorneys a boatload of money under the guise of altruism.
Cheers,
Adam
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Quote from: DrDesmosedici on November 16, 2010, 12:33:51 PM
Translation: People are signing up to help make attorneys a boatload of money under the guise of altruism.
Cheers,
Adam
Well - playing devils advocate what ELSE is being done? Aside from the replacement of bad tanks with other bad tanks?
I went in for my 2nd tank this past weekend - my local dealer is now offering to coat the tanks for $250.
I hate to be cynical, but my options are
1) pay dealer to fix a problem the factory can't fix
2) don't do anything and have the problem repeat itself
3) DIY the coating of the tank - i.e. pay to fix a problem the factory can't fix
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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Quote from: arai_speed on November 16, 2010, 11:58:39 AM
From MS - I guess people are signing up for the class-action suit.
correction: they are signing up for Girard-Gibbs' class action suit. the suit that I may be filing will not be the same, and won't be related at all.
Quote from: DrDesmosedici on November 16, 2010, 12:33:51 PM
Translation: People are signing up to help make attorneys a boatload of money under the guise of altruism.
Cheers,
Adam
I hope you're not including me in this. I'm doing this for no punitive damages and expenses only. Make ducati fix the problem and cover the expenses of the suit, that's it. i've spent over 200 hours on this and if they fixed the problem today, i'd be fine with it. that's 200 hours i could have spent working for clients.
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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Quote from: ducatiz on November 16, 2010, 03:20:35 PM
correction: they are signing up for Girard-Gibbs' class action suit. the suit that I may be filing will not be the same, and won't be related at all.
No need for correction. Let's call it "clarification"
You haven't filed a suit so my reference was for the Girard-Gibbs suit.
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Quote from: ducatiz on November 16, 2010, 03:20:35 PM
correction: they are signing up for Girard-Gibbs' class action suit. the suit that I may be filing will not be the same, and won't be related at all.
I hope you're not including me in this. I'm doing this for no punitive damages and expenses only. Make ducati fix the problem and cover the expenses of the suit, that's it. i've spent over 200 hours on this and if they fixed the problem today, i'd be fine with it. that's 200 hours i could have spent working for clients.
I think i speak for most of us when i say you've been a class act. I'm greatly appreciative of your efforts and feel better knowing there are guys like you out there in the legal field that are real life down to earth good dudes that try to do the right thing.
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Re: Plastic Tank problems: Discussion thread, see info thread sticky for updates
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Quote from: csp808 on November 16, 2010, 03:53:52 PM
I think i speak for most of us when i say you've been a class act. I'm greatly appreciative of your efforts and feel better knowing there are guys like you out there in the legal field that are real life down to earth good dudes that try to do the right thing.
wait...
you must have 'tizz confused with a human.
I kid...he's been working his ass off trying to resolve this with everyone's interest, besides his own, in mind.
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its unfortunate that the plastic tanks are not working as is,but after seeing the problem on some tanks for a few years now you woul dthink that at least the new bikes coming forward now they would possibly use all new metal tanks.
yes they would be more expensive whihc you then pass on to the consumer but hte monsters all use the same tanks, the 848 and 1198 and streetfighters all appear to be the same tank, and the hypers are thier own.
in other words it would be good if ducati just thought ahead and went bakc to the metal tanks, but like you said the best economically is a coating that may or may not work long term.
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November 16, 2010, 09:49:02 PM »
Quote from: ducatiz on November 16, 2010, 03:20:35 PM
correction: they are signing up for Girard-Gibbs' class action suit. the suit that I may be filing will not be the same, and won't be related at all.
I hope you're not including me in this. I'm doing this for no punitive damages and expenses only. Make ducati fix the problem and cover the expenses of the suit, that's it. i've spent over 200 hours on this and if they fixed the problem today, i'd be fine with it. that's 200 hours i could have spent working for clients.
Not even a little bit, my comment was directed towards the guys purchasing facebook ads and google adwords in an attempt to drum up business and line their pockets. You are the other end of the spectrum - keep it up
Cheers,
Adam
Quote from: Statler on November 16, 2010, 06:04:13 PM
Girard-Gibbs is stereotype lawyer in all the wrong way.
'Tizz has been working his ass off on this as an enthusiast and I haven't been doing shit since I got him a contact with DNA to see if he could work it out prior to filing.
Too bad DNA and Ducati-sPa can't see that.
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2 things;
1) DNA is basically powerless against the mother company. for whatever reason we arent considered a very important market and the fact that were having problems ( for some ridiculous reason) doesn't concern the mother company that much.
2) Ducati has proven to correct the problem when confronted with it, if anyone is having problems getting new tanks for bonifide tank swelling then thats the dealers problem. And unless someone can prove damages beyond the tank (swollen tank causes an accident, leaks fuel and destroys something/causes fire etc) I cant see how any class action suit is going to get additional money for something that the company has tried to correct in good faith. but hey, im no lawyer.
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Quote from: xcaptainxbloodx on November 16, 2010, 11:05:42 PM
And unless someone can prove damages beyond the tank (swollen tank causes an accident, leaks fuel and destroys something/causes fire etc) I cant see how any class action suit is going to get additional money for something that the company has tried to correct in good faith. but hey, im no lawyer.
And there lies the beauty of what 'Tiz is doing. He isn't going after punitive damages or any of that crap. He is just trying to get Ducati to come up with, and implement, a viable, permanent solution.
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Quote from: dark_duc on November 16, 2010, 11:32:49 AM
Went to Hansen's BMW / Ducati / Triumph in Phoenix Oregon and had them look at my mildly deformed tank. They said they hadn't heard any issues with the Monster's tanks, but they took some pics and contacted DNA. They called me a couple days later to let me know that the claim was approved and a replacement tank was on they way. Once arriving they said they would only need an hour with the bike to do the swap. The crew at Hansen's made this a very easy process.
My 696 tank warped and started leaking at the fuel pump fitting last August. Dealer approved the new tank under warranty immediately. What they don't tell you about is the back order on the tank. Took 2 friggin months for Ducati to ship a new tank. Wiped out my fall riding season.
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