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NorDog

#1575
June 24, 2011, 07:38:53 PM
Sorry to be a partial source of a potential thread jack.

Back on topic.

I'm on my third tank, probably over 7 months now (I really can't remember) and I think it's starting to swell just a tad up at the latch.
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booger

#1576
June 24, 2011, 07:41:35 PM
Guy told me a few months back that he didn't do plastic tanked FI Monsters. Steel tank FI yes, and his website attests.

So, I'd like to know what the hell went wrong before I donate the tank and pay to have it shipped to him.



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jerryz

#1577
June 25, 2011, 05:52:17 AM
Ducati in UK  refuse to admit there is a problem at all and are saying that owners must pay $2600 for a new tank .......when owners and consumer right people point out the USA Ducati UK say its irrelevant ....lying FXXK*rs

ducpainter

#1578
June 25, 2011, 05:57:34 AM
Quote from: bergdoerfer on June 24, 2011, 07:41:35 PM
Guy told me a few months back that he didn't do plastic tanked FI Monsters. Steel tank FI yes, and his website attests.

So, I'd like to know what the hell went wrong before I donate the tank and pay to have it shipped to him.



every time kopfjager posts a photo of his bike it's a threadjack  [drool]
I'm sure kopf will fill you in if you pm him
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duccarlos

#1579
June 25, 2011, 10:16:56 AM
Quote from: jerryz on June 25, 2011, 05:52:17 AM
Ducati in UK  refuse to admit there is a problem at all and are saying that owners must pay $2600 for a new tank .......when owners and consumer right people point out the USA Ducati UK say its irrelevant ....lying FXXK*rs

I would like to think that the reason that DNA has been much more responsive to the issue is because of efforts from people, especially Tiz. If this truly becomes an issue in the UK, you will need to find advocates that donate their precious time. I like that will be much harder than getting Ducati UK to eventually admit that there is a problem.
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#1580
June 27, 2011, 04:31:15 PM
Not the EPA mandated emissions regs that (barely) protects us yanks?
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rockaduc

#1581
June 28, 2011, 02:58:13 PM
Just got the call from my dealer.  My second tank is in, i just have to make the appointment.  Took only 1 month from the time they took and submitted photos.
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Desert Dust

#1582
June 28, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
I got my first replacement tank in November of 2010. The service manager told me not to coat it because they hadn't had any problems with the replacement tanks. Now my replacement tank has more waves than the Pacific on the sides. This time, the same service manager told me that I might consider a coating for my next replacement tank.

Ever heard of talking out of both sides of your mouth?   :-\   [roll]
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ducpainter

#1583
June 28, 2011, 04:42:18 PM
Quote from: Desert Dust on June 28, 2011, 04:23:37 PM
I got my first replacement tank in November of 2010. The service manager told me not to coat it because they hadn't had any problems with the replacement tanks. Now my replacement tank has more waves than the Pacific on the sides. This time, the same service manager told me that I might consider a coating for my next replacement tank.

Ever heard of talking out of both sides of your mouth?   :-\   [roll]
Perhaps he's more experienced now....
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    is even more amazing than yours."
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    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
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Desert Dust

#1584
June 28, 2011, 04:48:08 PM
I don't think so, because I mentioned Caswells the first time and he said it would cause more problems because of the possibility of chunks floating around. Now Caswells is good? Also, in November, this dealer had already admitted to replacing over 100 tanks. This problem has been going on for years and he should have known what to do by last November.
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ducpainter

#1585
June 28, 2011, 05:00:00 PM
Quote from: Desert Dust on June 28, 2011, 04:48:08 PM
I don't think so, because I mentioned Caswells the first time and he said it would cause more problems because of the possibility of chunks floating around. Now Caswells is good? Also, in November, this dealer had already admitted to replacing over 100 tanks. This problem has been going on for years and he should have known what to do by last November.
Why did you listen to him?

There was good info here last November that hasn't changed significantly.

There has since been a report of the Caswell coating not adhering, but this is the internet and no one really knows all the details, and it's the only report I'm aware of.

It just seemed like you were inferring the SM had real knowledge...

I think you give him way too much credit.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


ducatiz

#1586
June 28, 2011, 05:22:20 PM
Quote from: Desert Dust on June 28, 2011, 04:48:08 PM
I don't think so, because I mentioned Caswells the first time and he said it would cause more problems because of the possibility of chunks floating around. Now Caswells is good? Also, in November, this dealer had already admitted to replacing over 100 tanks. This problem has been going on for years and he should have known what to do by last November.

My experience with various service managers over my lifetime is that they claim to know far more than they really do.

Quote from: ducpainter on June 28, 2011, 05:00:00 PM
,,....
It just seemed like you were inferring the SM had real knowledge...

I think you give him way too much credit.

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Desert Dust

#1587
June 28, 2011, 09:21:04 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on June 28, 2011, 05:00:00 PM
Why did you listen to him?

There was good info here last November that hasn't changed significantly.

There has since been a report of the Caswell coating not adhering, but this is the internet and no one really knows all the details, and it's the only report I'm aware of.

It just seemed like you were inferring the SM had real knowledge...

I think you give him way too much credit.
I listened to the service manager beause he is the person who helped me get my tank replaced in the first place. Now that my second tank is swolen I can say I followed his advice. I also expect my dealer to be the expert on this situation. Saying that I took a particular course of action because someone on the DMF told me to doesn't carry much credibility with the dealer.
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Betlog

#1588
June 28, 2011, 11:15:58 PM
With the pending July 22nd decision regarding the Ducati case, is it still a good idea to get the tank looked at by a dealer now?  Mine is not noticeable but it is a pain to latch/unlatch the tank.  Also, the top triple tree hits the tank when I move it to the "lock" position.

ducpainter

#1589
June 29, 2011, 03:41:21 AM
Quote from: Desert Dust on June 28, 2011, 09:21:04 PM
I listened to the service manager beause he is the person who helped me get my tank replaced in the first place. Now that my second tank is swolen I can say I followed his advice. I also expect my dealer to be the expert on this situation. Saying that I took a particular course of action because someone on the DMF told me to doesn't carry much credibility with the dealer.
Fair enough, but I don't think there are any 'experts' in this situation...

just a bunch of people, DNA included, looking for a solution to a really bad situation.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."


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