Dying Girl's Wish Granted By Pixar

Started by roy-nexus-6, June 18, 2009, 09:15:56 PM

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It's really nice to hear that they actually sent a guy out there with that stuff. That's the least a business should do in this situation.

I think most companies wouldn't have done anything, or they would have charged for it. :-\

ducpainter

Quote from: Mother on June 19, 2009, 01:29:27 PM
although

strangely enough part of me doesn't feel so bad

yes the life was cut short

and

yes dying of cancer is usually a hard way out

but

I can see a very slight positive to going out as a child

you still have the youthful innocence and optimism

life and the world are still so big and fun

you don't have to die with adult onset bitterness and dashed hopes

but i guess that is only if it happens quick
says the 40 ish year old.... :-\
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."



GAAN

Quote from: Mr Natural on June 19, 2009, 07:05:00 PM
says the 40 ish year old.... :-\

hey

I was trying to find the glimmer of hope in an otherwise shitty deal

it was a stretch

mstevens

Quote from: Mother on June 19, 2009, 01:29:27 PM
although

strangely enough part of me doesn't feel so bad

yes the life was cut short

and

yes dying of cancer is usually a hard way out

but

I can see a very slight positive to going out as a child

you still have the youthful innocence and optimism

life and the world are still so big and fun

you don't have to die with adult onset bitterness and dashed hopes

but i guess that is only if it happens quick

Spoken like someone without kids.

I would vastly have preferred that my daughter die (even of cancer) as a bitter, disappointed 90 year-old than as an innocent 16 month-old. At least she would have had a chance to make a life for herself. Cancer and its treatment are pretty miserable at any age, but I had to make decisions for my daughter that she might not have made for herself as an adult. Some people who feel as if their lives have run their courses might opt not to undergo surgery or chemotherapy. We didn't feel as if we could make that decision in the case of a baby, even though once it became clear she was going to die we fervently wished we'd made the other choice.

Having spent more time than I really cared to on pediatric cancer wards, both as a parent and during medical school, it has not really been my personal experience that "youthful innocence" or "optimism" actually survive very long under those conditions, even for the very young. The world isn't very big when you're tethered to an IV pole, and the definition of "fun" might be making it through a day without puking.

I've got a 14 year-old son now. I can see no even very slight positives to having him die now instead of many years from now, whatever the circumstances.

Perhaps you just feel obligated to find some dim glimmer of positivity here, but seriously: not every dark cloud has a silver lining. Some things just suck, big-time, and there isn't really anything you can do about that. Accepting ugly realities is a part of being a grown-up. It's not that I want my kid to have to learn to accept terrible things, but I most certainly would rather he have a chance to instead of having a tree fall on him today.
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Quote from: mstevens on June 20, 2009, 09:47:30 AM
Spoken like someone without kids.

I would vastly have preferred that my daughter die (even of cancer) as a bitter, disappointed 90 year-old than as an innocent 16 month-old. At least she would have had a chance to make a life for herself. Cancer and its treatment are pretty miserable at any age, but I had to make decisions for my daughter that she might not have made for herself as an adult. Some people who feel as if their lives have run their courses might opt not to undergo surgery or chemotherapy. We didn't feel as if we could make that decision in the case of a baby, even though once it became clear she was going to die we fervently wished we'd made the other choice.

Having spent more time than I really cared to on pediatric cancer wards, both as a parent and during medical school, it has not really been my personal experience that "youthful innocence" or "optimism" actually survive very long under those conditions, even for the very young. The world isn't very big when you're tethered to an IV pole, and the definition of "fun" might be making it through a day without puking.

I've got a 14 year-old son now. I can see no even very slight positives to having him die now instead of many years from now, whatever the circumstances.

Perhaps you just feel obligated to find some dim glimmer of positivity here, but seriously: not every dark cloud has a silver lining. Some things just suck, big-time, and there isn't really anything you can do about that. Accepting ugly realities is a part of being a grown-up. It's not that I want my kid to have to learn to accept terrible things, but I most certainly would rather he have a chance to instead of having a tree fall on him today.

If he wants to find a glimmer of hope in something, then let him.

He sees enough death and mayhem and kids being make the beast with two backsed over every night he's gone to work for the past 8 years. Maybe the only thing that keeps him going is finding hope in even the most tragic of things.

I'm sorry that you can't see a silver lining but don't bash on someone who tries to.

ETA: Sorry if my post seems harsh but I'd rather have Mother continue to try and see some good in the world rather than quickly turning into a bitter old man like his partner at work. I just think that if he wants to try and put a positive spin on it, then let him.

mrs minnesotamonster

mstevens- I'm so sorry you had to go through that. I can't imagine (and hope I never have to experience) anything of the sort.

minnesotamonster

[roll]

Here we go again.

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JBubble

#22
Quote from: minnesotamonster on June 20, 2009, 11:52:55 AM
[roll]

Here we go again.

Go ride your bikes people  [moto]



What are you talking about?

mstevens has his opinion, Mother has his. We're all getting along just fine.

[roll]

minnesotamonster

I'm talking about the drama and pissing matches that've been going on. Seems like there's a thread being locked every week. It's the internet. Who cares if somebody has a different opinion/view on things.
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1998 Honda F3 (Track)
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mrs minnesotamonster

I'm not sure he was talking about Mother's post.

JBubble

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Quote from: minnesotamonster on June 20, 2009, 12:04:35 PM
I'm talking about the drama and pissing matches that've been going on. Seems like there's a thread being locked every week. It's the internet. Who cares if somebody has a different opinion/view on things.

You're exactly right.   [beer]

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ducpainter

Quote from: JBubble on June 20, 2009, 11:23:02 AM
If he wants to find a glimmer of hope in something, then let him.

He sees enough death and mayhem and kids being make the beast with two backsed over every night he's gone to work for the past 8 years. Maybe the only thing that keeps him going is finding hope in even the most tragic of things.

I'm sorry that you can't see a silver lining but don't bash on someone who tries to.

ETA: Sorry if my post seems harsh but I'd rather have Mother continue to try and see some good in the world rather than quickly turning into a bitter old man like his partner at work. I just think that if he wants to try and put a positive spin on it, then let him.
This is the first time I've commented on a post of yours in months...

sometimes you don't have a make the beast with two backsing clue Jess.

The man lost a child.

Wake the make the beast with two backs up.

Dammit you've make the beast with two backsing pissed me off. >:(
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."



JBubble

Quote from: Mr Natural on June 20, 2009, 05:34:19 PM
This is the first time I've commented on a post of yours in months...

sometimes you don't have a make the beast with two backsing clue Jess.

The man lost a child.

Wake the make the beast with two backs up.

Dammit you've make the beast with two backsing pissed me off. >:(

Then we have a difference of opinion.

I understand he's lost a child and so have you.

I'd appreciate it if you didn't talk to me that way but if you do wish to, please do it in a PM instead of publicly.

ducpainter

Quote from: JBubble on June 20, 2009, 05:38:38 PM
Then we have a difference of opinion.

I understand he's lost a child and so have you.

I'd appreciate it if you didn't talk to me that way but if you do wish to, please do it in a PM instead of publicly.
You posted your thoughts publicly...

so did I.
"Once you accept that a child on the autistic spectrum experiences the world in
 a completely different way than you, you will be open to understand how that
 perspective
    is even more amazing than yours."
    To realize the value of nine  months:
    Ask a mother who gave birth to a stillborn.
"Don't piss off old people The older we get, the less 'Life in Prison' is a deterrent."