To Duc from HD ? about 1100 vs 696

[devils haircut]

I hope you aren't too upside down on your HD payments.  I tried to trade my superglide in for a 696 last year, but I owed too much on the Harley.  I'm gonna try again this year for either the 696 or 1100.  I can't afford the S .

[Ivan]

I plan on financing for a couple years, is that something the local dealer can handle?

Also, has anyone ridden a TuonoR 1000?  That will be at the top of my budget but I plan on test riding that as well Monday.

The Tuono is a lot of fun.  I test rode one the same day that I bought my Monster.  Compared to the Monster, it is a much larger bike.  It is also somewhat heavier, at least it feels that way. The Rotax 60-degree V-twin is bulletproof, but it has much more of a tractor feel than the L-twin, and it does not sound as good.  Don't get me wrong, it is a great engine, and it will pull hard right up to the redline.  The seating is much more upright on the Tuono.  If you are tall, the T might be a better fit.  I liked the T, but after one ride on the Monster my mind was made up.

Given your budget constraints, I'd look for a nice used S2R1000...

[Saxiety]

My advice is save for the 1100 and dont test a 1100s. that way you wont know how much better the s is 

wouldn't you know the demo is an 1100s. I'm working on the wife. It's "only" another 4k. Lol

[HuDuc]

Not sure if any of this will help, but...

I was in the market for a monster back in October. I was seriously considering a 696, although I did have concerns that I would "outgrow" the bike considering my ownership horizon of 4+ years. In the end, I purchased a lightly used S2R1000 and am glad that I did.

A few days ago, I had the bike in for a new rear tire and took a M696 out as a demo/loaner. After being on the bike with the bigger motor, I was definitely wanting more. The power, breaking, ergos and everything were great (although you will want the DP seat right off the bat) and I certainly can't ride the M696 to its limits, but the power of the 1000 or 1100 engine is addictive.

You can get a solid S2R1000 for about the same price as a 696, so I would add that to your list of bikes to consider. Of course it means that you have to ride the classic full-trellis frame...  

Good Advice, this exactly what I did!

[Greg]

Given your budget constraints, I'd look for a nice used S2R1000...

I agree, you can find a real nice S2R-1000 for about half the price of a new 1100

[Saxiety]

I've been looking at the dealer for awhile and they don't seem to have any.  There is a dealer about 100 miles away that has one.  Even though I would like to stay with the new frame and body style the S2R1k is a great looking bike.

[Saxiety]

I hope you aren't too upside down on your HD payments.  I tried to trade my superglide in for a 696 last year, but I owed too much on the Harley.  I'm gonna try again this year for either the 696 or 1100.  I can't afford the S .

No too bad.  I've already been approved for the 696 but I'm trying to talk the wife into letting me try for the 1100.  We will see soon.

[Saxiety]

Well, I went to the dealer this morning all geared up to make a decision.  I decided to ride the F800ST again for comparison sake and then decided to scrap the whole deal before taking the 696 out.  I am not going to trade in my bike upside down when I can sell it for more than I owe.  Furthermore, it doesn't make sense to have more owed on a bike that the initial starting MSRP unless you've added something to the bike like pipes or other accessories.  So, until another time.  Thanks for the feedback.  I will definitely go 1100 when the time comes.

[yotogi]

While I know you will be wishing that you had pulled the trigger, way to make the correct decision for you.

And who knows, maybe the classic style monster will grow on you and you can find a clean S2R1000. Not that I am bias or anything.   

[MAXdB]

why not an S4R?

[devils haircut]

Well, I went to the dealer this morning all geared up to make a decision.  I decided to ride the F800ST again for comparison sake and then decided to scrap the whole deal before taking the 696 out.  I am not going to trade in my bike upside down when I can sell it for more than I owe.  Furthermore, it doesn't make sense to have more owed on a bike that the initial starting MSRP unless you've added something to the bike like pipes or other accessories.  So, until another time.  Thanks for the feedback.  I will definitely go 1100 when the time comes.

And this is EXACTLY what I went through last year, lol!  Trust me, you wont stop wanting one...I know I haven't

[ducpenguin]

why not an S4R?

+1

[Saxiety]

I really do like the older style S2 and S4R bikes.  As a matter of fact it took me a little time to warm up to the new look.  I do like the way the Monster rides and I'll tell you my biggest concern is whether or not I can keep the speed down.  I was doing ~105 on the F800st today and wanted more but was running out of space.  I know a Harley will do that kind of speed but it doesn't feel right.  Feels like something is getting ready to fly off the next gust you hit.    The biggest amazement to me is wind management on a Ducati with hardley any kind of protection has less buffeting than a full HD Dresser with a batwing fairing.

Oh well, let me sell the hog and save some coin.  Thanks again for all the great advice you gave me.

[Langanobob]

No offense to the newb, but am I the only one here that thinks it's hilarious that he's talking about 5-10 lbs of carbon after coming from an HD?

Let's don't forget that it's all relative...and you know what the Japanese 600cc sport bike riders say about us 

[Takster]

Let's don't forget that it's all relative...and you know what the Japanese 600cc sport bike riders say about us 

I was just joking around... I went from being a new rider with the "I'll leave it stock" attitude to the "I wonder if they make CF tire valve-caps" attitude in about 10 minutes.