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« on: June 21, 2009, 06:19:37 AM » |
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So I am going back to the track after a 5-6 year hiatus. First time out there on this bike. The problem I am having is with my right foot position in right handers. The exhaust pipes and their little heat shields are messing me up. I have a little trouble with the swingarm on the left side in left handers but it is not a big deal. I just have to be mindful to keep my heel off it. The right handers are a real pain though. I was wondering if anyone has already been through all this. Obviously taking off the exhaust pipes or finding a good aftermarket exhaust would help but I don't have the money or noise tolerance for that.
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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2009, 07:13:29 AM » |
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How about different rearsets?
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2009, 09:23:38 AM » |
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Good idea but those are also too expensive for me right now. What I have now is some little doodads that move the peg back and up 30 mm.
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2009, 12:27:58 PM » |
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They make those... can't remember who - a question over in acc/mods will probably get you an answer.
Funny (to me) you've got a problem on the right. On an S*R bike I found tht the swing arm out hit my heel... not a fan of that feeling
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« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2009, 05:41:33 AM » |
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I burnt the crap out of my new boots on my S4RS (since gone). It's even more expensive but you can get an aftermarket exhaust like the Quat-D exbox which removes the issue. Depending on the track's noise limits, you can just take your S pipes & mufflers off & you get around it that way but just running the cat. Rearsets would help depending on where they put your feet but they might not. You can change your foot position to adjust for the pipes. These are all solutions for track days or expensive so unfortunately it's going to be cheap + noisy or expensive.
I've taken the S pipes off and I've run aftermarket exhausts, never done rearsets on the monsters though. I think you'd want to make sure they'd actually resolve the issue for you before spending mucho chasho on rearsets (even thought they look really cool). You may find that the position for the rearsets to enable you to stop having your foot foul on the pipes is quite uncomfortable.
I had exactly the same issues with the S pipes on my S2R800 & S4Rs, really make the beast with two backsing annoying IMO and they've done the same bloody thing with the Streetfighter.
Good luck finding a workable solution.
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« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2009, 05:53:51 AM » |
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So I am going back to the track after a 5-6 year hiatus. First time out there on this bike. The problem I am having is with my right foot position in right handers. The exhaust pipes and their little heat shields are messing me up. I have a little trouble with the swingarm on the left side in left handers but it is not a big deal. I just have to be mindful to keep my heel off it. The right handers are a real pain though. I was wondering if anyone has already been through all this. Obviously taking off the exhaust pipes or finding a good aftermarket exhaust would help but I don't have the money or noise tolerance for that.
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« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2009, 09:53:35 AM » |
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i experienced the problem with the stock exhaust pushing my heel out as well. to compound the issue, i melted a brand new pair of boots on it. first step for me was to run with the open udder, until i could afford a quat-d ex box.
i also regularly experienced the left heel hitting the swing arm, and chain guard. not a happy feeling. so i put my side covers back on, and they (in combination with riding boots) help to keep my heel off the chain.
not much help, but i feel your pain...
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« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2009, 05:18:30 AM » |
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I made a plate to help on the left side, but as long as I am mindful I can stay off the swingarm without it. It is a waste of attention though. Its the right side that really bothers me. I may just give the open udders a shot. Obviously that would solve the problem. I'll just have to get some better earplugs. Its good to know that I am not the first one to have this problem. Thanks for the feedback.
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« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2009, 07:42:28 AM » |
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Unfortunately, udder only is really make the beast with two backsing loud. I couldn't handle the loudness but I'm a bit of a pansy when it comes to exhaust volume (aside from the social, legal and political issues). If you're able, you could make some inserts for the udder to kill the noise a bit or block off one of the outlets, that's what they do on the ExBox, it comes with one of the outlets blocked off with a plate you can remove.
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« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2009, 11:11:17 AM » |
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+1 on the udder being too loud.
i used to feel stunned at the end of a long ride, and i always wear ear plugs
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« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2009, 11:34:13 AM » |
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I've ridden the bike like that with a friend who also had his bike like that, talk about instant headache!
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« Reply #11 on: June 23, 2009, 01:37:36 PM » |
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I had the same problem on S2R800 now dedicated race bike. I replaced the stock exhaust with a marving mid pipe and a Leo Vince 2-1 can. I also added Rizoma rear sets to move my feet up and back. Right away I ran into melting problems on my right heal. I tried exhaust wrap but I would have to replace after every race and my boot still melted. What I ended up doing is attaching the stock heat shields to the Y pipe using some fancy hardware and some hose clamps. This solved the melting issue but with the heat shields on there I couldn't get a good perch on the rear set; my heal was being pushed out to far. The solution was to shim out the rear set 5mm and bend in the heat shields in as much as possible with a hammer. This was the best solution yet although not perfect, I lose a little ground clearance but at least my foot doesn't slide off the peg and the boot doesn't melt. If I race the bike again next I plan is to make an under seat exhaust or get some boom tubes to get rid of the pipe problems. An ex box will give ground clearance problems if you are heavy like me  Here is a pic of me on the bike. You can see the heat shield just beneath my boot. The other heat shield is just behind my boot.  KNG |
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« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2009, 06:46:07 PM » |
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ExBox + correctly sprung & setup suspension should work dude. If you're heavy, get a heavier spring & you should be good.
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« Reply #13 on: June 23, 2009, 07:03:41 PM » |
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For street riding yes. My stock udder was dangerously close to the pavement on the track up here. Our track is also very rough, we always joke the pavement in the parking lot at Miller is better than our track. Cracks large enough to swallow a wheel are not uncommon... ExBox + correctly sprung & setup suspension should work dude. If you're heavy, get a heavier spring & you should be good.
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« Reply #14 on: June 24, 2009, 06:17:05 AM » |
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SuMo time?  |
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