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Author Topic: Why do Rossi/Stoner/etc stick their foot out?  (Read 18630 times)
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« Reply #30 on: July 23, 2009, 07:33:07 AM »

I saw that article the other day.  Not sure if I agree that the first use of the leg-dangle was the block-pass on Gibernau, but otherwise it's as good an explanation as I've heard anywhere else.
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« Reply #31 on: July 23, 2009, 09:08:17 AM »

I think it could make someone feel more comfortable about late braking, but I think more than anything it's a blocking technique.  No one wants to be the guy that got ahead by clipping a dangling leg and causing a crash.
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« Reply #32 on: July 23, 2009, 01:34:00 PM »

I think it increases "feel" on the bike.  Think about a 3 legged chair vs a 4 legged chair.  You can feel direction shifts better.  you usually see them do it when they are headed into a corner too hot.  the leg comes free to get a better feel for traction (my opinion). 

I know that when I rode dirt bikes I could get the wheels sliding and felt more confident when I had the inside leg off of the peg.
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« Reply #33 on: July 24, 2009, 05:52:10 AM »

That's the most logical explanation so far.
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« Reply #34 on: July 24, 2009, 08:02:07 PM »

I think it could make someone feel more comfortable about late braking, but I think more than anything it's a blocking technique.  No one wants to be the guy that got ahead by clipping a dangling leg and causing a crash.

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« Reply #35 on: July 26, 2009, 11:02:00 AM »

current theory is that they (the racers) think it allows them to brake a little bit deeper into the corner...


Yeah..that's been said..but after watching last weeks race..I almost think Rossi does it to block riders from trying to pass him.  Did you see his foot sticking way out last week so the rider (I think Lorenzo?) couldn't pass.  It could have been that he needed to regain his balance though.  Who knows?  I don't think he's a dirty racer.  Just had a different take on it after I saw that move.   

Kind of like Jordan taking an extra step back in the day and getting away with it.. .. ..cuz he's Jordan.

Nobody put their knee down until one person did it and figured out it made them go faster in the turns.  This could be the same thing. 

Anyone try it at the track lately?

I know I stick my leg out (not on purpose obviously and in no way comparing my..uh..skills? to those guys) when I feel like I may go down and it stablizes me.  Kind of takes me back to riding my old DR 350 in the dirt.     
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« Reply #36 on: August 11, 2009, 10:45:43 PM »

OMG spidey, I've literally pissed myself.
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« Reply #37 on: August 12, 2009, 05:36:50 AM »

OMG spidey, I've literally pissed myself.
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2009, 02:10:15 PM »

IZ you sure your not sticking it out so Dietrich can't pass you? Grin
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« Reply #39 on: August 13, 2009, 02:39:10 AM »


Yeah..that's been said..but after watching last weeks race..I almost think Rossi does it to block riders from trying to pass him.  Did you see his foot sticking way out last week so the rider (I think Lorenzo?) couldn't pass.  

My thoughts exactly. They do it all the time so when they do it to really block someone they can just say they're not doing it with the intention to block.
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« Reply #40 on: August 13, 2009, 07:32:13 AM »

that theory cracks me up
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« Reply #41 on: August 21, 2009, 03:20:41 AM »


These guys muscle their bikes unlike road riders. Road riders are a passenger on a bike as it goes through a corner. A racer defies all physics to make the bike go beyond its normal capabilities.

it is all about the apex, grip, position entering and exerting the corner. These guys are making the bike do things that it is not designed to do, that is why Rossi just says "I don't know why I do it".

What they are doing (for example) going into a left hand corner (remembering they have slipper clutches): On entry they are still braking, they are forcing down the right hand peg (like doing a squat) while pulling back on the right hand handle bar. With the lean angles these bikes have now they can perform this maneuver a lot more aggressively by taking all the weight off the left peg, which means the left leg is swinging in the breeze. They are already pushing down on the right peg as they accelerate to keep the weight of the front tyre. 

The legends of the 500cc era perfected rear wheel steering, but now with traction control the legends of the current era are still pushing the limits and still rear wheel steering.

The current day legends are forcing the bike to go where they want it to go, thats why they are legends.

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« Reply #42 on: August 21, 2009, 05:26:26 AM »

And it's spreading. Saw Bautista and Simoncelli do it in Brno.
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« Reply #43 on: August 21, 2009, 09:39:22 AM »

And it's spreading.

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« Reply #44 on: August 21, 2009, 10:22:08 AM »

And it's spreading. Saw Bautista and Simoncelli do it in Brno.

practising for looking like everyone else when they do it in GP I bet...LOL
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