2010 Silly Season

[Speeddog]

Spies  

Jeebus, I hope not.

I'm believing that he's too tall and heavy for the current crop of 800's....

[gm2]

I think Spies still qualifies under the new "rookie" rule though, doesn't he?

yeah, the only factory bike he could get in year 1 of his motogp career would be the suzuki.

[gm2]

Jeebus, I hope not.

I'm believing that he's too tall and heavy for the current crop of 800's....

he's about the same size as rossi...

and as already noted there's at least a rumor around that he has already signed a new 2-year deal with yamaha: 1 more year in wsbk then a move to Tech 3, with full factory support.  unless he wins the sbk title this year, then maybe 2010.

[Jester]

Rossi:  182cm  67kg

Spies:  180cm  72kg

[Speeddog]

According to my quick interwebz search, Spies runs about 160, Rossi about 135.

Where are trustworthy rider weights found?

[gm2]

According to my quick interwebz search, Spies runs about 160, Rossi about 135.

Where are trustworthy rider weights found?

i dunno.  but i'm gonna guess that there is some marketing in that rossi number.

either way, it's clear that ben still has his sights set on GP.  he's joe super fit anyway; i'm sure if he had to lose 10 lbs, he would.

[Triple J]

yeah, the only factory bike he could get in year 1 of his motogp career would be the suzuki.

That rule sucks.  I thought it was only a rumor...not that it had been passed already. 

[Jester]

According to my quick interwebz search, Spies runs about 160, Rossi about 135.

Where are trustworthy rider weights found?

I got my weight off motogp.com for Rossi, and converted Ben's weight posted on his website to kg.

[gm2]

That rule sucks.  I thought it was only a rumor...not that it had been passed already. 

since the beginning of 2008 the Tech 3 bikes have been factory or very-nearly-factory.  the (not at all surprising) word is that if/when he gets a Tech 3 bike, the agreement is that it'll be no different than the Fiat bike.. all year long. 

basically that rookie rule is irrelevant if the factory wants to make it so.

[Speeddog]

Dunno if Spies could lose 10 lb without losing strength, but maybe that's not a big issue.

He's built like me and JoeC, *very* lanky.
I'm 6'1" 165, I could lose 5 lb without issue, but after that I'd be losing muscle.

[gm2]

ok, so then 5lbs...  

they say that nicky is about 20lbs lighter than when he was in sbk.  different body type, i know.  i'm just sayin'.

[derby]

He's built like me and JoeC, *very* lanky.

and rossi isn't? 

[Speeddog]

and rossi isn't? 

  yeah, he's lanky, for sure.

My point being that other than Rossi, the guys consistently finishing near the pointy end are more in the sub 130 lb (59 kg) range.
Even if Spies thins down to 150, he's still giving away 40 to Pedro, and 20-30 to the other guys.

[DanTheMan]

Does the rider weight actually matter? Isnt there a minium weight calcutated for the bike + rider. Just saying if the rider is on the heavier side cant they drop the bike weight? And the rider on the slimmer size forced to add some weight to the bike. Or minium weight calculated with bike only.

[derby]

Does the rider weight actually matter? Isnt there a minium weight calcutated for the bike + rider. Just saying if the rider is on the heavier side cant they drop the bike weight? And the rider on the slimmer size forced to add some weight to the bike. Or minium weight calculated with bike only.

nope... min weight for bike only.