2010 Silly Season

[derby]

Capirex @ Suzuki in 2010

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78000

 

[desmoquattro]

Capirex @ Suzuki in 2010

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/78000

Call it mole removal...

[EvilSteve]

I hope Vemeulen can get a good ride in WSBK, he was impressive there, never really did consistently well in GP unless it was wet.

Why the head banging?

[derby]

I hope Vemeulen can get a good ride in WSBK, he was impressive there, never really did consistently well in GP unless it was wet.

Why the head banging?

because neither of those guys should still have a ride... suzuki had the opportunity to put spies (who's entire 4-stroke career had been on the brand) on the gsvr and chose, instead, to re-sign these two clowns for yet another lackluster season...

not only did these two guys produce another season of suck, suzuki pushed a racer that they'd invested in heavily for roughly a decade to another manufacturer.

fail fail fail...

[zooom]

I disagree with you somewhat on this Derb...why the Mole is the suck is in question, but he does for sure...Capi has produced with what he has been given...it is just a matter of the 'Zuke not having the same development leaps and breakthroughs that the Yam and the Duc and as of late the Honda have...yeah, there was improvement in the machine at the end of the '07 season and then this and last year has been much more lackluster, but from the last test for what they were doing in prep for 2010 season with Capi and the times and whatnot he was putting in....I think they have something with the familiarity and all that going in with this combo...while I don't expect to see him win the championship...I would love to see him on a podium or few...the other thing that is greatly weighting in on this from Suzuki's POV probably also is the amount of seat time a machine ( any machine on the grid) takes to acclimate to for a rider with the testing limitations...Kropotkin put it nicely in this piece -> http://www.motogpmatters.com/news/2009/08/25/lorenzo_signs_with_yamaha_so_who_goes_to.html

as far as 'Zuke giving up on the Hopster and Spies...well...I am sure they felt bad about making those decisions, but it does no good to dwell in mistakes of the past...

[Spidey]

as far as 'Zuke giving up on the Hopster and Spies...well...I am sure they felt bad about making those decisions, but it does no good to dwell in mistakes of the past...

Hopper is donkey balls.

Why are they not making a play for Spies in 2010?   If they weren't gonna get him (and I don't think they were), keeping Capi makes sense.

[desmoquattro]

Hopper is donkey balls.

Why are they not making a play for Spies in 2010?   If they weren't gonna get him (and I don't think they were), keeping Capi makes sense.

I suspect Spies will stay in WSBK...especially if he doesn't win the title this year.

[EvilSteve]

I'd have to agree with zooom, I don't think Capirossi is that far behind the front guys that they should get rid of him outright. The idea of having two GP rookies on a bike sorely in need of development isn't a good one in my book. Keeping Capirossi around while Bautista gets up to speed next year is a good plan IMO.

If I were Spies, I'd be hesitant to go back to Suzuki especially if Yamaha were making the right noises. Seems to me that Tech3 should be getting rid of Toseland post haste & finding someone who's more suited to the bike/class.

[zooom]

Seems to me that Tech3 should be getting rid of Toseland post haste & finding someone who's more suited to the bike/class.

which goes to the question of what is different about a GP rider from a production bike rider...

GP riders are I guess suposed to and expected to give enormous amounts of feedback about the most enormously minute of details to bring along a machine in its development along with his normal suspension and tire deviational needs of what is going on...whereas the production bike riders may only have to give feedback in regards to suspension and gearing which may say something as to why JT is the suck and other production bike riders have done poorly in GP classes....maybe they don't have that ability to give that weather report on things to get the most out of a machine...

Hopper is donkey balls.

normally...I'd say you are right on the money with that assessment...but I think that his '07 performance on the 'Zuke was his best season yet and they were starting to get something out of the machine in terms of competitiveness with the way he was riding it by season end...

[gm2]

ben has already ridden the gsv-r, successfully.  more successfully than mr. hang out in 7th place at all costs.

sure, capi is good PR and whatnot, but he'll get a podium next year.  maybe.

suzuki had already committed to bautista so there was only 1 seat there (hence that bs PR piece about the mole 'leaving' suzuki... lol)

suzuki massively screwed the pooch last year.. you can see it in denning's face.

[Cider]

I don't think Capirossi is bad either.  Spies might be preferrable, but I don't think Spies will sign with them now.  Capirossi has a lot more GP wins than the other GP guys that are looking for a ride.

[derby]

I don't think Capirossi is bad either.  Spies might be preferrable, but I don't think Spies will sign with them now.  Capirossi has a lot more GP wins than the other GP guys that are looking for a ride.

c'mon... that's like saying duhamel has more ama superbike wins than the other kids lookin' for a job. what has he done lately?

the choices suzuki made last year with regards to their 2009 lineup made absolutely no sense from a forward-looking, let's-set-ourselves-up-to-win-a-championship-in-the-next-few-years point of vew.

suzuki had ben... they should've dropped one of their riders (my vote: the mole), and given the other seat to ben. they would've had the old fogey to give some development consistency and a young up-n-comer to move forward with in the future.

basically, they should've made the decision they've made this year, last year.

[ducpainter]

c'mon... that's like saying duhamel has more ama superbike wins than the other kids lookin' for a job. what has he done lately?

the choices suzuki made last year with regards to their 2009 lineup made absolutely no sense from a forward-looking, let's-set-ourselves-up-to-win-a-championship-in-the-next-few-years point of vew.

suzuki had ben... they should've dropped one of their riders (my vote: the mole), and given the other seat to ben. they would've had the old fogey to give some development consistency and a young up-n-comer to move forward with in the future.

basically, they should've made the decision they've made this year, last year.

I don't disagree, but hindsight is 20/20.

Suzukis' biggest mistake was not recognizing Spies' talent.

[gm2]

link title to a Soup article earlier this year

"Qatar Quote Machine: Suzuki Vindicated In Not Hiring Spies. Oh, Wait, Did We Say Vindicated or Exposed As Idio ..."

oh, and that HRC decision to put takahashi on the scot honda rather than ben also worked out really well.

[Jester]

oh, and that HRC decision to put takahashi on the scot honda rather than ben also worked out really well.

Ah, but The Ben isn't Japanese, so he didn't count.