Americas Cup

[Kopfjäger]

I'll take any coverage I can get from the race.

There are some new pics etc. here.

http://www.sail-world.com/events.cfm?Eid=362&hasFlash=1

[mitt]

Dumb ? - can there be more than 1 challenger?

mitt

[Kopfjäger]

Dumb ? - can there be more than 1 challenger?

mitt

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Cup

[Statler]

 

If you want to spend hours and hours going through arguments over cup history on a sparsely moderated site....   sailinganarchy is a good place for tons of Cup info.

they will also do some coverage live feed.    and one of their guys is over there doing interviews...great tour of the hard wing.

[lethe]

Sailboats are barbaric and outdated.

[mitt]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America's_Cup

I have heard of wiki before  - thanks for the first google search return.  A simple yes or no would have been fine, or maybe you don't know?  I didn't really want to read more of the history and legality of it, and still don't.


mitt

[Kopfjäger]

I have heard of wiki before  - thanks for the first google search return.  A simple yes or no would have been fine, or maybe you don't know?  I didn't really want to read more of the history and legality of it, and still don't.

mitt

Sorry, I thought you might like to read about it. My bad. Here is a little bit of info.


The America's Cup regatta is a challenge-driven series of match races between two yachts which is governed by the Deed of Gift which was the instrument used to convey the cup to the New York Yacht Club. Any yacht club that meets the requirements specified in the Deed of Gift has the right to challenge the yacht club that holds the Cup. If the challenging yacht club wins the match, the cup's ownership is transferred to that yacht club.

From the third defense of the Cup in 1876 through the twentieth defense in 1967, there was always one challenger and one defender, although the NYYC ran a defender selection series to pick the yacht they would use in the match. Starting in 1970, interest in challenging was so high that the NYYC started allowing multiple challengers to run a selection regatta among themselves with the winner being substituted as Challenger and going on to the actual America's Cup match. From 1983 until 2007, Louis Vuitton sponsored the Louis Vuitton Cup as a prize for the winner of the challenger selection series

[Popeye the Sailor]

Kopf,

You missed a fantastic opportunity to lie to him. 

[Kopfjäger]

Kopf,

You missed a fantastic opportunity to lie to him. 

[Statler]

I have heard of wiki before  - thanks for the first google search return.  A simple yes or no would have been fine, or maybe you don't know?  I didn't really want to read more of the history and legality of it, and still don't.


mitt

it's not realy a yes or no type answer.   yes there can be yachts racing to see who challenges, but the AC is a match race between two clubs only.

[triangleforge]

I kind of get why they scrubbed the race yesterday for lack of wind, but when the wind did build  a bit, this confused me (from the online Sail World coverage):

Three hours later and the wind had built a little but it was unstable. At the top mark 20 miles closer to the Spanish coast, there were gusts of up to 12 knots from the south west, (around 240-245) but at the same time, the wind over the horizon at the start line was three knots but unfortunately from the north west (335).

That 80-90 degree difference across the course made it very tough for the race committee to run a race.

Wouldn't shifting winds just be a tactical issue for the crews to deal with?

[Popeye the Sailor]

Wouldn't shifting winds just be a tactical issue for the crews to deal with?

It would be if it was a real sport 

[gage]

might as well give the Swiss some air time (boo hiss)   check out the view of this beast right at the end.

Alinghi 5 continue l'entrainement à Ras Al Khaimah

The Swiss may not win but they'll get to the finish line exactly when they said they will.   

[Statler]

playing windshifts is tactical, but this is supposed to be a windward leeward course, and if the wind shifts too much it's just a drag race on a reach, versus trying to claw upwind.

There's a 30 degree cutoff on this one where technically the race committee can cancel the race if before reaching the first mark, it shifts that far.

going to be different on this race for the tacticians because of the speeds of the multihulls.   In the monohull boats a five degree difference in wind direction was HUGE, but one or two knots more windspeed wasn't...here it's more about finding the wind strength.  a couple knots more wind here means a tremendous amount more boat speed.

also can't pin the other guy and block his wind, because the multis can just turn down a bit and accelerate out from under the competitor.


Guess I'll set the alarm again for wednesday morning.   The espn360 feed was smooth and reliable btw.

[mitt]

Sorry, I thought you might like to read about it. My bad. Here is a little bit of info.


The America's Cup regatta is a challenge-driven series of match races between two yachts which is governed by the Deed of Gift which was the instrument used to convey the cup to the New York Yacht Club. Any yacht club that meets the requirements specified in the Deed of Gift has the right to challenge the yacht club that holds the Cup. If the challenging yacht club wins the match, the cup's ownership is transferred to that yacht club.

From the third defense of the Cup in 1876 through the twentieth defense in 1967, there was always one challenger and one defender, although the NYYC ran a defender selection series to pick the yacht they would use in the match. Starting in 1970, interest in challenging was so high that the NYYC started allowing multiple challengers to run a selection regatta among themselves with the winner being substituted as Challenger and going on to the actual America's Cup match. From 1983 until 2007, Louis Vuitton sponsored the Louis Vuitton Cup as a prize for the winner of the challenger selection series

thanks



mitt