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DesmoLu
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Recently took off a pair of Ferodo XR Racing pads and was very surprised at how worn down they were. I just put the pads in a little over a month ago, haven't done any two up and not much aggressive riding on them. They are pretty pricey and I was convinced to buy them on the premise that they'd last a while. Although I'd been happy with the stopping power, I'd be unhappy if these guys didn't last to justify the price.
Anyone used these pads or have any input? Any particular favorites?
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Re: Brake pads
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July 14, 2009, 12:27:58 AM »
I use the Ferodo Platinums. Lots 'o bite and good feel.
Just my $.02. YMMV.
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July 14, 2009, 02:11:49 AM »
Maybe its just me but... if something has race in the title it usually mean one of two thing or ocasionally both of them.
1 not meant for road use. ie wont keep up to temp on the road
2 will only last a short period of time Race distance.
also you should be careful using race/track pads cos they'll kill your rotors.
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July 14, 2009, 03:29:11 AM »
Quote from: weemonster on July 14, 2009, 02:11:49 AM
also you should be careful using race/track pads cos they'll kill your rotors.
Bing... race formulation pads are created with some specs in mind - long rotor life is not one of them. So rotor life is sacrificed for better performance when hot, more consistency at high temps etc etc.
Street pads will not eat your rotors and perform better at the lower temps that come with street riding vs the track.
Those ferodo Plats are very popular.
I've got a set of Braking pads out back that are a similar compound to the Platinum and I quite like them (when/if) I use the rear brake
- Lu is this research for a rebuild? Or just thinking about pads for a your next ride?
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July 14, 2009, 06:51:51 AM »
Quote from: rockaduc on July 14, 2009, 12:27:58 AM
I use the Ferodo Platinums. Lots 'o bite and good feel.
Just my $.02. YMMV.
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Quote from: yuu on July 14, 2009, 03:29:11 AM
Bing... race formulation pads are created with some specs in mind - long rotor life is not one of them.
- Lu is this research for a rebuild? Or just thinking about pads for a your next ride?
Well, I just took these off of my totaled bike and will probably put them into the next bike for the rest of their use. I was originally going to buy the Ferodo Platinums actually, but Chris at Cycleworks recommended these guys. My bf recently bought the EBC HH and I'm going to be riding his bike for the next month so we'll see how they compare.
As far as screwing up the rotors, I would imagine that if you just adjust your braking accordingly to the extra bite, it wouldn't matter. You don't have to use the bite just because it's there. Although this is great in theory...until you lose your front end and accidentally grab your front brake and high-side....not that I would ever do a thing like that
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July 14, 2009, 07:59:24 AM »
They won't screw up your rotors per se. It's just the rotors life expectancy won't be what it might be with some more street minded pads is all. A number of race pads use sintered metals in their mix which just wears on the rotor surface more and otehr materials might is all
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July 14, 2009, 08:24:54 AM »
Chris recommends the race pads because the smaller 620/695/800 brakes suck. Hence the extra bite. I have the platniums on my S2R1k brakes. All the more reason to total the 695 and get a pair of S2R1000s.
just dont do it so violently nexttime.
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July 15, 2009, 05:01:25 AM »
DP (Dunlopads) are great as well. they have much more bite than stockers and are available in different compounds to suit... Just break 'em in right.
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Quote from: He Man on July 14, 2009, 08:24:54 AM
just dont do it so violently next time.
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July 19, 2009, 06:50:45 PM »
I really like the CP211 carbon ceramic pads. Suppose to be good for both iron or SS rotors. I use em on iron.
They don't have the big hit the stock HH pads do (which I never liked), but the CP211's build power and feel rapidly and progressively. Good qualities in brakes.
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Quote from: LA on July 19, 2009, 06:50:45 PM
I really like the CP211 carbon ceramic pads. Suppose to be good for both iron or SS rotors. I use em on iron.
They don't have the big hit the stock HH pads do (which I never liked), but the CP211's build power and feel rapidly and progressively. Good qualities in brakes.
LA
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I didn't bring our pads up cuz of the heat required to get them to work initially and after you have been off of them for a bit. Especially in colder weather, mine go stupid pretty quickly. I would only recommend them for seasoned "brakers" and those who can remember to "think" about getting some heat in them before blasting into a corner... ya know.
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Re: Brake pads
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July 20, 2009, 03:22:36 PM »
seasoned "brakers"
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Hey you, What do ya mean by that? Old? yea I'm old
; a seasoned braker I guess, I get AARP shit in the mail daily.
When I think of it those HH pads that came stock on my old 04-S4R and on my current S4RS were pretty damn good pads. Not sure I could stand anything that bit any harder.
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July 21, 2009, 04:20:00 AM »
Quote from: LA on July 20, 2009, 03:22:36 PM
seasoned "brakers"
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Hey you, What do ya mean by that? Old? yea I'm old
; a seasoned braker I guess, I get AARP shit in the mail daily.
Now that's funny!
NAH, you know what I mean. Those of us who use the brakes as sort of a "sex-type-thing"
When I think of it those HH pads that came stock on my old 04-S4R and on my current S4RS were pretty damn good pads. Not sure I could stand anything that bit any harder.
So much so that I hated them AND they warped the rotors!!
LA
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Re: Brake pads
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July 22, 2009, 09:11:30 AM »
AFAIK, maximum braking is reached when a properly "bedded" set of pads has deposited a small layer of pad material on the rotors and that force is achieved via pad material on pad material, not pad material on rotor.
http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm
IMO, you could never achieve that using racing pads on the street without being very dangerous and very illegal. Not to mention scary as hell in the rain.
Just my 2ยข
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