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« on: August 04, 2009, 02:56:03 AM »

Hey a while ago there was a thread on a place to get good cheaper tools.

I know Rusty, Big Ian and monstermick58 have tools from this place.

Have searched but can't find it.......

So what is the name of this tool site again please?Huh??
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« Reply #1 on: August 04, 2009, 03:21:25 AM »

Is this what you were looking for?

http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/oz-monsters/173146-bargain-micrometer-deal.html
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« Reply #2 on: August 04, 2009, 03:24:27 AM »

Thanks heaps Betty....... Yep that's the thread (as I hold up the wooden cross) .....  waytogo
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« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2009, 08:45:12 PM »

Okay a question for all you wrenches out there...........  Roll Eyes

I need to get a torque wrench mainly for us on my MTBs and a bit of Duke stuff.

Need a torque range of 1Nm - 20-24Nm ish.....

Now the question is what to get....

* Deflecting beam wrench (I'm old school and used these in a past life).....

* Micro Meter (Coil spring) wrench....

What do you all use?Huh??
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« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2009, 09:30:01 PM »

Big T we were recently looking for a torque wrench and our very limited experience would indicate:

- the small range (which you are looking for) are much more expensive generally and harder to come by in non-specialist tool shopping circles
- the smaller wrenches need a finer tolerance (hence the relative expense)
- the beam style ones are more accurate ... if you know how to use them ... and don't require to be re-calibrated every 2nd week

But you know I know basically nothing about these type of things.
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« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2009, 09:42:27 PM »

big t i still like the deflecting type with the button , i dont like the scew ones but if you can aford it go digital  waytogo
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« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2009, 10:06:51 PM »

If you really only need to go up to 24Nm, have a look at this:

http://www.transquip.com.au/product.aspx?ID=1531

I doesn't go down as low as 1Nm tho (and that's _really_ low...)

I've got the next size up in that range, this one:

http://www.transquip.com.au/product.aspx?ID=1532

You're welcome to borrow it to check it out of you want.

It's the right size for _most_ things on a Monster (and in the middle of its range where it's most accurate for nearly everything important), I've also got a cheapo 1/2 drive SupaTool brand one for the few things that need 80+ foot pounds (the only things I've really needed it for are the alternator and clutch hub nuts) - I'm happy enough using a less accurate too for fasteners asking for 100 or 150ft lbs, I figure they're more likely to take a +10% abuse than the 4mm engine case bolts...

You'd _probably_ get away with the little baby 1/4 drive one and a larger 1/2 drive one like this:

http://www.transquip.com.au/product.aspx?ID=425

I'd be a little careful there though, running the small one right up at 200inch lbs =~ 16 ft lbs isn't a great idea, but you'd end up with not a great deal of overlap with the 10ft lb bottom end of the range on the bigger one...

Do you really need that 2-7Nm range that the 3/8 drive wrench doesn't cover?

On the beam/clicky choice, it's _much_ easier for inexperienced users to get it wrong with a bean wrench - I know I don't use mine often enough to be "good" at reading and using a beam wrench - I tried this out for myself using Qantas's calibration tools when a friend still worked there, my crappy wrench was within 4% calibration for the middle 90% of its range, and I could hit a specified torque to within 5% reliably with it - with an even better calibrated beam wrench I was often 10-15% out, tho Paul would hit better that 1% with it every time... Unless you're gonna use them weekly, get a clicky wrench.

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« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2009, 10:23:46 PM »

Thanks all for the great advice.

And Big the main reason for the 2-6Nm is CF.

I have CF MTBs and clamping / bolting anything to CF where you can crush / crack the CF just makes me a little nervous any time I work on them....

So looks like a "clicky" it is......... 

Checked out digital but they don't go low enough......

Looks like the Kincrome might be the go.....

Although this is pretty cool for MTBs only....
http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Models.aspx?ModelID=29422
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« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2009, 10:46:19 PM »

Words of wisdom from Big. I use a "Warren & Brown" deflecting beam type 10-160Nm (bit heavy for Bikes!) because I've had it forever. Upon a recommendation I took it to:

http://www.torquecalibrationservices.com.au/

Because it hadn't been calibrated in 30+ years. Surprisingly, it was still reasonably accurate and, after adjustment, the guy at tcs was able to get it very accurate for most of its range. Reason for the story is that they did have refurbished & calibrated second hand units for sale at the time. Doubt that they have the really small ones though but it's possibly another option.
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« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2009, 11:49:56 PM »

alright big...because I like you....

here you go...

now THIS place has cheap but great quality bike parts - check out the prices on Shimano (MTB) and Campy (road) parts....ah.....ah....who loves you...now this is a nice piece of kit for carbon...and if you want bulletproof carbon on your bike, buy this brand...they have been tested by a fantastic German magazine and are clearly the strongest safest manufacturer of carbon...after reading the tests my friend took the Ritchey components off his bike.

http://www.starbike.com/php/product_info.php?lang=en&pid=6048

so it's about 64 euro (when you minus the VAT) so...about $110.

who loves the spider?  Kiss
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« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2009, 01:15:54 AM »

Big T loves the Spider......  bow down  bow down

Now that is a porn site.....  Evil  Cool

The Syntace Torque Tool is exactly what I'm looking for.....

OOoohhhhhhhh bike porn ..............  Shocked  Shocked

PS Spider: I also get good bike porn from Chainreactions out of the UK as well. Another great site....  waytogo
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« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2009, 02:33:47 AM »

should mention, and this is pure  Evil

but that site is great because the more you buy....the less the shipping is...you buy that wrench and it will be $50...add a few tyres (at half the cost of what they are in Australia - try the Schweble) and it will drop down to $25.
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« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2009, 06:16:49 PM »

I have the same Torque wrench as BigIain, even got it from the same supplier!

But it has always been very good and easy to set up and use  waytogo
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« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2009, 11:04:54 PM »

The Syntace Torque Tool is exactly what I'm looking for.....

Yep - if you're doing fasteners up holding structural carbon bits, you _need_ a tool like that one. Even if you don't buy other stuff to reduce the freight, it's only a little more expensive tha the not-really-suitable alternative I suggested...

+ it's a _really_ cool bit of kit - you'll automatically be 17% sexier* just by having that in your toolbox...

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* may not _actually_ increase sexiness by 17%
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« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2009, 02:05:04 AM »

+ it's a _really_ cool bit of kit - you'll automatically be 17% sexier* just by having that in your toolbox...

Well Big I am now 34% more sexy....  bow down  bow down

I not only purchased the 1-20Nm Syntace but got the 10-80Nm Syntace as well and a few other bike bits.....  waytogo  waytogo

So now have the MTB and Duke covered....

OOohhhhh and Jukie is 17% more sexy as well (1-20Nm added to her tool kit).....  Cool  Cool

Got to love great tool porn......

PS: Big T loves Spider......  bow down  bacon
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