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Author Topic: Coffin resevoirs vs billet style??  (Read 1693 times)
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« on: August 18, 2009, 10:26:48 AM »

are there any benefits to the coffin shape reservoirs?

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has anyone with a 696 / 1100 swapped??

i like the look of some of the billet reservoirs like the rizomas

http://www.rizoma.com/Prodotti/zoomCloseUp.cfm?IMG=CloseUp/1_DucatiMonster_1100_big.jpg

just a thought

sorry if this is a derby, not sure the whole 696 thing has been discussed
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« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2009, 02:41:27 PM »

From the looks of it the rizomas dont hold much fluid..If you bleed your brakes you'll be refiling a lot..You risk spillage / overflow when you reverse bleed the clutch slave.

You might want to check on how well they seal. If they're not air tight you risk getting moisture in your lines. Which will result in performance degradation.

Just casual observations and things to look into. No FHE with them.
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« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2009, 02:57:46 PM »

I used to have the Rizomas...they work fine. The small volume makes bleeding a little more of a PIA, but that's minor.
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« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2009, 04:08:38 PM »

are there any benefits to the coffin shape reservoirs?

i like the look of some of the billet reservoirs like the rizomas



Benefit to the manufacturer is cost.  The coffins are less expensive units - so you'll see them on the 'smaller' less costly Monsters. 

Plenty of folks have used the Rizoma billet res'.  They come in a few sizes, some folks opt for bigger ones on the brake side to deal with the issue mentioned above.  Others just deal with more frequent level checks and bleeding to use smaller ones.

But, to use them if you have coffins - you're going to need new masters that support remote reservoirs.  So, it'll be a costy mod
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« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2009, 05:00:54 PM »

interesting mentioning the cost, that sucks, i just think they look bettter.

no to make myself look dumb

bleeding? with a smaller size? how does size affect this??

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« Reply #5 on: August 19, 2009, 04:05:33 AM »

if you have a 696 or 1100 then you should be looking to upgrade to radial masters to make full use of your radial calipers.

I think all radial masters have remote reservoirs so you can get rizomas or any other brand.

If the remote rizoma doesnt hold the same fluid as the coffin then you have bought  the wrong size.
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« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2009, 06:36:42 AM »

bleeding? with a smaller size? how does size affect this??

As you bleed the system, you get fluid out as well as air. While you are doing it, you need to be sure that air doesn't get back into the system by making sure that your reservoir stays full. The smaller the reservoir the more frequent you have to fill. If it goes dry, you get air in the system and you are back to starting all over as you have to work that new bubble all the way through the line.
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« Reply #7 on: August 19, 2009, 06:46:46 AM »

kind of get it, sound like that would suck. but possible eh?

it looks like the rizomas are only $55 each or so, how much added cost is the other stuff?

lets say $110 for rizomas or similar, maybe $200 for the whole job?
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« Reply #8 on: August 19, 2009, 07:03:54 AM »

More... A new forged Radial master will run between $250 and 300, depending on the source.  'Goldline' styles will cost less.  @nd hand is an option of course - But depending on how your current masters output port is positioned, new masters might mean new lines.

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« Reply #9 on: August 19, 2009, 07:10:53 AM »

rizomas dont appear that cheap, unless these aren't as nice as what your talking about

http://www.rizoma.com/Prodotti/ProdottiUniversal.cfm?ID_categoria=3&IDSez=1

56 euros, $79
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« Reply #10 on: August 19, 2009, 01:27:30 PM »

Never said Rizoma stuff was cheap... it definitely is not.

$200 for the whole job is only 20-25% of what it would cost if you went Rizoma on radial masters.  There's less expensive options for masters - but you've seen you're headed towards $200 fast for just the Fluid tanks - never mind any other stuff.
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