Anyone "Not" a fan of the Single Side Swingarm?

[DarkStaR]

I like how the sprocket stays on the swingarm with the wheel removed! 

Yeah, those wheel changes are time consuming on a DSS.

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[derby]

I like how the sprocket stays on the swingarm with the wheel removed! 

the real impressive stuff happens on the front end...

[Randy@StradaFab]

   So what would it take to convert a new Monster 1100 to a DSS? Anyone done it?

[kingbaby]

   So what would it take to convert a new Monster 1100 to a DSS? Anyone done it?

Question 1: A welder.
             

[sroberts152]

   So what would it take to convert a new Monster 1100 to a DSS? Anyone done it?

I'll trade you your SSS for my 696 DSS.

[Rameses]

Going back to the original question...



I always hated the look of the SSS.

I have serious ocd issues with symmetry.

Then I got a bike with one.

First time I changed the rear tire...

make the beast with two backs symmetry.   

[Rob Hilding]

SSS's are great from the open side.........

From the other, not so much

IMHO

[RavnMonster]

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Not a fan of the SSS. its maintenance benefits IMO don't make up for its extra weight and handling quirks unless you are running endurance races.  Notice that Ducati's serious bikes have DSS.  I believe if the buying public hadn't threw such a fit over the 999 being fitted with a DSS instead of the more fashionable SSS that Ducati would have dropped the SSS altogether.  But the buying public voted with their $$ so the 1098 brought it back.

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The D16RR has DSS, other than that the 1098R has SSS.  I see your logic in that a DSS is probably stronger but you only need it if you are putting out 200+ HP in which a monster never will.

[derby]

SSS's are great from the open side.........

From the other, not so much

IMHO

yeah, and the dssa is unattractive from both sides...

[Rob Hilding]

yeah, and the dssa is unattractive from both sides...

Or you could say - reasonably OK from both sides versus really nice on one side and hideous on the other -

On balance it could be that it depends on the viewer

[GLantern]

I had a Monster 695 and it had a DSS.  When i saw most Ducati's have a SSS i cried a little bit thinking how much i wish i had that super cool SSS.  Now i have a 1098 with a SSS and a dry clutch.  I am happy 

It's just so goddamn awesome looking!  How many bikes do you see out there with a SSS?  I like being unique......

And the argument of flex and weight can seriously be dropped.  Are any of you professional racers pushing these bikes to the absolute limit? I think not.....I have never seen or felt the arm on my bike "flex" nor have i been bothered by the extra weight. I know the arm weighs more since that genius Durbahn from over the pond converted a 1098 to a DSS and compared the weights.  He however is building race bikes. 

I vote SSS

[redxblack]

SSS are pretty. When I told a friend I had a Duc, he asked if it was SSS. It wasn't because he knows much about bikes, but he thought they were pretty. I have a DSS. It has nothing to do with it being lighter; I could stand to lose a sizable amount of weight on the rider before I'd bother with the cost of losing 7 lbs on a swingarm. The swingarm is such a minor detail for me. This thread reminds me of hockey message boards during the off season where people find things to talk about in the lull.

[Spidey]

A 916 gives me wood.  I have no idea if that's cuz of the SSS or not. 

I didn't like the SSS on the S*r monster line.  It's since grown on me a bit, but the flowing, organic trellis, combined with the more angular trellis of the frame just didn't jive.  The biggest part of dislike, however, came from the pipe configurations. I don't like high pipes and/or the two-sided shotgun monster pipes.  That dictates a lot of the what kinda of swingarm works visually with the bike.  So when it came time to re-do my monster, we went with a DSS (albeit from a Supersport).

I like 'em on the streetfighter with Termis and the SBKs (and the Speed Triple), just not a big fan on most monsters.  My favorite SSS monsters are the earlier ones where the owners converted to the 916-style SSS.  Somehow it fits better.

[Triple J]

Monster DSSs are friggin' ugly...especially the steel ones. If they put a SS (like Spidey's bike) or a fancy trellis DSS on them I might prefer that to the SSS...for looks only, and only on the Monster. Of course, then I see an S2R with Boom Tubes, or the Zard high exhaust, and I like the SSS on the Monsters better as well.

Functionally, the SSS stomps the DSS. I've owned both and I'd be hard pressed to go back to a DSS. The ease of chain adjustment alone is worth having a SSS.

I can't ride well enough to notice a difference in flex or weight from a DSS to a SSS (street or track). I suspect most people can't.The Ducati SSSs also do well in racing...so SSS for me. 

[Duck-Stew]

SSSA's are sexy as hell from one side and 'meh' from the other.

Stock Monster DSS's are 'meh' from both sides but if you've got low-mounts, 70% is covered up by pipes anyhow.

So, on my CR re-build, I went with a custom built DSS seen here:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13264.msg460959#msg460959