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« Reply #105 on: August 27, 2009, 07:09:58 AM »

Some damn nice work here.  waytogo

I could see this being written up in compare/contrast form: 5 bikes, 5 builders, $1000 budget in each case.

That would be an awesome contest!!!
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« Reply #106 on: August 27, 2009, 08:11:18 AM »

does the $1000 include the bike?  Grin
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« Reply #107 on: August 27, 2009, 10:26:14 AM »

ok so let's do it.

for you builders...

take a stock 696 and $1000 worth of  materials or parts.

total manhours has to be limited as well... you guys come up with an amount. and no fudging.

reasoning for the 696, there are plenty out there and cost is low.

judging could be on...
Technical changes... ie HP, torque, suspension, etc.
Aesthetic... ie shorttails, CF, paint, etc.
Originality... can't give you a definition, cause then it would be unoriginal.

Take 1 month and post your writeups and picks on a new discusion board. one thread per bike.
maybe some of our sponsors could offer up some choice bits for prizes.

We could work towards getting all the modded bikes (say limit of 5-6 builders) in MondoDucati magazine or Cycleworld... would be great press for the builders, forum and Ducati.

What say thee?
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« Reply #108 on: August 27, 2009, 11:06:27 AM »


What say thee?

Nobody is going to chop up a 696 for a $1000 bike build. It is too new of a bike, and too expensive.

It'd have to be an older Monster, or an SV650, etc.
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« Reply #109 on: August 27, 2009, 11:08:46 AM »

take a stock 696

Where shall we take them from? Cuz I don't have one layin' around?   Undecided
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« Reply #110 on: August 27, 2009, 11:13:40 AM »

alright pick a bike you all agree on.

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« Reply #111 on: August 27, 2009, 11:19:58 AM »

Nobody is going to chop up a 696 for a $1000 bike build. It is too new of a bike, and too expensive.

It'd have to be an older Monster, or an SV650, etc.

Wish this wouldn't have came through at the same time.

Is it a odd choice? maybe.  But it equalizes the playing field.  All we need to do is hijack a Duc truck.

Hell, I'd saw up my 1098s if the others would.  

Ducati's can't all look virtually the same forever. well I guess they could, but after a while looking at our bikes would be like taking a sleeping pill.

SV650   Huh?  

As far as bike we agree on?  Have you seen my turbo?   laughingdp I'll chop up anything.

Off to get new cut off wheels  Evil
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« Reply #112 on: August 27, 2009, 12:03:53 PM »

i personnally like the idea of a new monster so you guys can showcase the potential. having my own apart i see sooo many places for changes. even have an idea for a new billet/tubular rear subframe.

i'm sure 5 or 6 696 owners wouldn't mind giving up their bike for a month if they get to keep the finished product.
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« Reply #113 on: August 27, 2009, 12:19:03 PM »

I love the concept, heres my issue....

So $1000. TEN hours of labor.. Hmmm

So if we discount labor totally, no problem

696 Duc, great starting point!

Take it apart, rework the suspension, forks and shock - $650 at Race Tech even.

Cut, grind, weld, and powdercoat the chassis - $350

Computrack the roller $250-500

Get my point? I wouldnt build a bike without having it measured before it was beat on. If it was strictly a cosmetic challenge, or only performance based, or... Hell, a set of pistons and rings with a gasket kit is $650! Makes it tought to do for $1k, and the Superhawk all the more impressive!

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« Reply #114 on: August 27, 2009, 12:23:04 PM »

i'm sure 5 or 6 696 owners wouldn't mind giving up their bike for a month if they get to keep the finished product.

Doubtful...but I could be wrong.

I sure as hell wouldn't give up my new 696 for some unknown mod. project.
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« Reply #115 on: August 27, 2009, 12:26:43 PM »

no the labor would be like a say 100 man hour limit. no cost. 1000 in parts or materials. 30 day build.

the thought would be the 1000 in parts and materials keeps the investment low on the builders part and imagination high. like exhuasts, anyone can buy a termi system, but building a custom system from sheet metal or CF say for 200 in materials... that would be a challenge and at the same time unique. 

also, since we can't expect you to use a new off the showroom 696, donor (borrowed) bikes would be provided by forum members for the opportunity to have one-off special builds as compensation for a month without their bikes.

the whole thing gets documented, photographed and written up for a magazine or even TV show and everyone wins from the press.
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« Reply #116 on: August 27, 2009, 12:33:34 PM »

Doubtful...but I could be wrong.

I sure as hell wouldn't give up my new 696 for some unknown mod. project.

with the guys on this forum... IF i had a working 696 and was near any of them... hell yeah i'd let them work on my bike
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« Reply #117 on: August 27, 2009, 01:11:35 PM »

There was a 95' M900 sold on this site recently for that price that basically only needed assembly and a cylinder head stud replaced.  Be easy to win with that on a monster site lol.

Some damn nice work here.  waytogo

I could see this being written up in compare/contrast form: 5 bikes, 5 builders, $1000 budget in each case.
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« Reply #118 on: August 27, 2009, 06:17:48 PM »

considering my bike started out like this, yes 1000$ does include purchase price.

 








And here is a little list of what I did to it.

1998 Honda VTR 1000 Superhawk

motor:

rebuild of top end
re hone
full port and polish
PAIR valve elimination, plugged Pair hole and flowed exhaust ports
removed Un Nessicary castings from both heads
Clearanced rear valve cover to fit Battery, modified crankcase breather
Hand made billitt aluminum Camshaft Chain Tensioners, red powdercoat

sanded block, removed extra castings
Cast coat iorn color engine enamel paint
New clutch friction plates
repaired and reinforced both stator and clutch cover
shortened, modified exhaust, 2 into 1, hand made muffler from c02 tank

Larger 5 row oil cooler, moved location, painted black
Oil cooler mount fabricated, drilled and tapped block for mounting

Carbs,

Jetted
breather removel
heater removal
1/6 turn throttle
1/8" alimunum baseplate for concept airbox
hand fabricated aluminum throttle cable mount

Ignition:

Twin Tech Hi performance Coils
Hand fabricated coil mounts
8mm plug wires

Cooling system,

Rear mount radiator
Dual fans, aluminum shroud
Aluminum 1" OD hardlines, dissipates more heat
welded mounts to radiator, capped and moved fittinngs
re mounted filler neck
modified water pump cover

Frame:

Sand Blasted, dents removed
removed front fairing mounting locations
drilled, welded, and tapped bungs for subframe forward mounts
hand built stainless fox shock resivour mount
Gsxr steering damper mount fabricated, welded to neck
Black bedliner

Subframe:
100% hand fabricated
3/4 inch OD 1/16 wall aluminum, gussited
alternative design, fit for single rear radiator
also locates and fits YTZ10 Battery
black bedliner
gunmetal color

Swingarm:

Sand blasted
Hand fabricated Bracing
Trellis design mimics main frame
3/4"OD 1/16" wall and 1" OD 1/8" wall aluminum tubing
black bedliner

Front forks:

Removed un nessicary castings-seams
Custom designed fork brace, 6061 T6 aluminum Billett
3 piece fabricated front fender, aluminum
black bedliner

wheels:

900rr front and rear

Brakes:

Front,

Honda RC51 reont Master cylinder, hand fabricated resivour reciever, Billet aluminum
Goodridge stainless steel braided lines, double banjo
Removed castings-seams from calipers, fully rebuilt
Red ceramic caliper paint, black accents
lightened front rotors
painted carriers gunmetal color
Small resivour
EBC HH Pads

Rear,
Honda RC 51 Master cylinder
hand fabricated Resivour adaptor
Goodridge line
Ducati twin piston Brembo Caliper, lighter and stronger
removed castings-seams, red ceramic paint, black accents
hand fabricated caliper adaptor plate, moves new caliper under swingarm
hand fabricated lever, ball bearing movement
small resivour, custom fabricated mount
Lightened rotor

Final Drive:

520 chain conversion, -1 +2

-1 JT front sprocket
+2 unknown rear sprocket, black powdercoat
520 x ring chain

Controls:

New Hayabusa Switches, throttle cables
Driven Meitor Cr low rise fatty bar, gunmetal color
100% hand fabricated rearsets, aluminum, adjustable 4"
hand fabricated GP shifter, aluminum, adjustable
hand fabricated brake lever mount

Lighting:

Hand built front headlight
Built from gsxr lower projector housing and clear cover, highly modified
Hand fabricated framework
Audi HID upper projector and ballast
Hand fabricated mounts and ballast mount

Tail light:

Upper LED tail-Brale light, flashing brake light
lower led running light

Fuel tank-Airbox HYBRID
Hand fabricated from 3003 grade alloy aluminum, 1/16 thickness, tig welded
Extensive use of english wheel
Fully baffeled, front to back, side to side

DESIGN CONCEPT, Teh tank doubles as the airbox. the bottom of the tank seals to a carb baseplate. This in turn moves the airbox higher and moves the heavy fuel lower, lowering the center of gravity.

K%N filter for Nissan Versa, modified
Carbon fiber intake scoop- rain guard

ducati vaccume fuel pump
billet aluminum filler cap, welded in

Seat:

4 layer carbon fiber, aluminum sheeting hybrid pan
Seat pan designed to channel air from top of radaitor,
heat shielding
memory foam
black gripper cover

Tail:

Hand fabricated carbon fiber louvers, to extract radiator heat
Aluminum mesh between louvers
1/16" aluminum sides and front, rivited to carbon center section
Aluminum mesh undertail to protect radiator from road debris


MISC:

Carbon fiber-aluminum battery tray-heat shield
Removed casting marks from triples
HIGHLY modified wiring harness, 1/2 stock weight
Moved all electronics up front behind steering neck
Modified Driven risers for further pull back
Brembo coffin style clutch MC
Black exhaust heat wrap
GSXR steering damper, Hand fabricated fork mount

COSTS

Steering damper, 15$

Bars, 100$

Brake parts, 125$

Aluminum sheet, 15$

Aluminum Tubing, 20$

Carbs, 50$

Carbon fiber resin, 50$

paint, 30$

Headlight, 10$ + 20$

tail light, 25$

fluids, 20$

fuel cap, 30$

misc, 200$

Total, UNder 1000$ including purchase

Finished weight, 348 lbs wet no gas. 376 full of gas

DRY 339 lbs
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« Reply #119 on: August 27, 2009, 06:19:47 PM »

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