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Re: DIY Painting Tips
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March 11, 2012, 05:10:44 PM »
Quote from: ducpainter on March 11, 2012, 05:09:14 PM
Are you sure it's been cleared?
No 7 isn't the best for clearcoat unless by hand.
If they're not deep scratches it might work.
yes, it's shiny and I'll do it by hand ... I don't polish with machines, only by hand . . .
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Quote from: Panamanian Monster on March 11, 2012, 05:10:44 PM
yes, it's shiny and I'll do it by hand ... I don't polish with machines, only by hand . . .
Shiny on relatively new c/f doesn't necessarily mean clear coated.
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Quote from: ducpainter on March 12, 2012, 02:36:42 AM
Shiny on relatively new c/f doesn't necessarily mean clear coated.
OK, it's shiny and feels smooth . . . ? ? ?
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 07:34:34 AM
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Quote from: Panamanian Monster on March 12, 2012, 02:52:44 AM
OK, it's shiny and feels smooth . . . ? ? ?
What brand?
Most DP carbon is not urethane clear coated.
Most, not all, Shift-Tech carbon is cleared.
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Quote from: ducpainter on March 12, 2012, 03:52:38 AM
What brand?
Most DP carbon is not urethane clear coated.
Most, not all, Shift-Tech carbon is cleared.
got it from MonsterParts . . .
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Quote from: Panamanian Monster on March 12, 2012, 11:42:50 AM
got it from MonsterParts . . .
ask Jeff if he knows if they're clear coated.
He's a good guy and very knowledgeable about his products.
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Quote from: ducpainter on March 12, 2012, 11:45:12 AM
ask Jeff if he knows if they're clear coated.
He's a good guy and very knowledgeable about his products.
will do . . .
if not I'll do the sand/clear/sand/clear . . .process . . . .
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 07:34:34 AM
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Quote from: Panamanian Monster on March 12, 2012, 11:46:39 AM
will do . . .
if not I'll do the sand/clear/sand/clear . . .process . . . .
Can you get an activated clear?
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Re: DIY Painting Tips
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Quote from: ducpainter on March 12, 2012, 11:53:06 AM
Can you get an activated clear?
in Dupont or BASF . . .
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 07:34:34 AM
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Quote from: Panamanian Monster on March 12, 2012, 11:56:06 AM
in Dupont or BASF . . .
I'd go with DuPont only due to familiarity.
I will add that all the vehicles in the 80's and 90's that had peeling paint were painted with BASF. It's never been determined to my knowledge if it was a product or application problem. What was discovered was the clear allowed UV to penetrate the film and separate the color from the e-coat.
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Re: DIY Painting Tips
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Quote from: ducpainter on March 12, 2012, 01:20:22 PM
I'd go with DuPont only due to familiarity.
I will add that all the vehicles in the 80's and 90's that had peeling paint were painted with BASF. It's never been determined to my knowledge if it was a product or application problem. What was discovered was the clear allowed UV to penetrate the film and separate the color from the e-coat.
OK ... sent email with JH answer . . .
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Quote from: ducatiz on March 27, 2014, 07:34:34 AM
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DP,
I have a Royal Enfield. They don't cork the tank filler when they paint the tank so the inside gets painted. Apparently this is only an issue in the US with our alcohol laden fuels but the paint inside the tank and around the filler neck has started to bubble and peel. I don't care about the filler neck but I am worreid about the inside. It's not a problem now but I'm guessing it will be one day. Is there any easy DIY way to strip the paint on the inside of the tank? I'd love to do that before it becomes an issue.
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June 14, 2012, 02:44:38 AM »
Quote from: scott_araujo on June 13, 2012, 01:15:46 PM
DP,
I have a Royal Enfield. They don't cork the tank filler when they paint the tank so the inside gets painted. Apparently this is only an issue in the US with our alcohol laden fuels but the paint inside the tank and around the filler neck has started to bubble and peel. I don't care about the filler neck but I am worreid about the inside. It's not a problem now but I'm guessing it will be one day. Is there any easy DIY way to strip the paint on the inside of the tank? I'd love to do that before it becomes an issue.
Thanks,
Scott
There's no 'easy' way Scott.
Any way you do it will be messy and potentially damaging to the exterior finish.
If I was bent on removing it I'd brush some aircraft stripper on it and then rinse the tank really well.
Personally I think I'd let time take it's course and add a filter in the line to catch anything that made it past the screen on the petcock, assuming it has one.
The only danger in that is the possibility of the screen clogging and leaving you stranded.
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June 14, 2012, 05:26:26 AM »
I was afraid that would be the case
The filter already in there is just a mesh bag that covers the whole pump which is held inside the tank. Lots of surface area so it shouldn't clog easily. I'll add flushing the paint chips out of the tank to my winter maintenance.
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Re: DIY Painting Tips
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June 16, 2012, 02:55:37 PM »
A question for the professional painters. Do you polish everything? I have painted a few bikes in my garage using PPG and Omni products. Whatever is still legal in California at the time. And now I'm getting to the point where there isn't always a run or spec of something in the paint. But there is a general kinda ripply,watery surface to the clear when I'm done. It's not orange peel or fish eyes or anything, but it is still not a smooth flat surface. It polishes out fine. But I'm wondering if I need to concentrate on my technique and gun settings or just invest in a good polisher and pads. So far I have been doing all the sanding and polishing by hand.
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