DIY Painting Tips

[LookoutforChris]

Anyone know where to get black paint for the frame of a 2007 S2R1000?  I've ordered samples of every "black" Ducati paint offered by Color Rite and none of them match all that well.

The frame isn't a simple black color.  It has a fine gold fleck in it.  Any suggestions?

[Raux]

http://www.colorrite.com/product/ducati-black-2083.cfm

this one maybe?

[ducpainter]

Maybe one of the two Black Metallics...

http://www.colorrite.com/product/ducati-black-metallic-2087.cfm

http://www.colorrite.com/product/ducati-black-metallic-2-2097.cfm

In my experience the colorite stuff doesn't match well and is pretty expensive.

I have most colors computer scanned and tint as necessary.

[showerfan]

wait, so, if we scratch up the frame on an older monster with gold paint... there is no way to fix it? 

Quote from: Timmy Tucker on June 16, 2012, 10:28:33 PM
I haven't read this whole thread, but I did do a search w/ no luck...

Is there a paint that matches the gold frame color? I wrecked the bike about a month ago and the battery spilled all over the frame and engine and totally wrecked the paint. Gonna black out the engine cases, but want to keep the frame the original color for now.

Thanks


I've never found one.

[ducpainter]

wait, so, if we scratch up the frame on an older monster with gold paint... there is no way to fix it?  

Colorrite used to offer it in a spray can. It's been discontinued as it hasn't been used in about 10 years, and IMO didn't match very well anyway. It was too 'brassy'.

I've just never found a color that matched well enough to charge people money.

I'm sure you could find something.

[JohnEE]

Hey Ducpainter, I've read through most of the thread to no avail. I could use some tips, steps and what to use.

I've recently acquired a seat cowl for my 695 that's navy blue, my bike is red. What is the easiest and most fool proof way to go about painting(rattle cans) it. Also If i wanted to hand paint something on top of the red what type of paint would be best and when to do it during painting(before the clear coat i assume?). Thanks in advanced I  to your knowledge.   

[ducpainter]

Hey Ducpainter, I've read through most of the thread to no avail. I could use some tips, steps and what to use.

I've recently acquired a seat cowl for my 695 that's navy blue, my bike is red. What is the easiest and most fool proof way to go about painting(rattle cans) it. Also If i wanted to hand paint something on top of the red what type of paint would be best and when to do it during painting(before the clear coat i assume?). Thanks in advanced I  to your knowledge.   

What kind of paint in the rattle can?

It makes a big difference.

[JohnEE]

What kind of paint in the rattle can?

I haven't bought any yet. What do you suggest? I don't need a professional grade just one that will match fairly well. I'm at step 0, no sand paper or paint or clear coat.

[ducpainter]

I haven't bought any yet. What do you suggest? I don't need a professional grade just one that will match fairly well. I'm at step 0, no sand paper or paint or clear coat.

My suggestion would be to go to your local autobody paint store.

Most of them can put professional materials in a spray can. That will allow you to spray multiple colors before clear with no chance of lifting. Try to avoid enamels. They are very recoat sensitive and don't lend themselves to multiple colors. If you can get lacquer it works, but is a lot of work to get shiny and doesn't hold up.

You should plan on a primer surfacer, whatever colors, and clear.

Clean the part before sanding to get any wax or grease off.

Sand the old paint with 180/220. Try not to go through to plastic or you'll also need an adhesion promoter. Prime 3 coats and sand with 400 dry-600wet.

Clean with alcohol. I use a sealer. It holds down scratches and gives a solid color to spray over. Reds don't cover well so try to have a uniform base.

The rest is masking a color when dry and spraying your second color. When dry, but before 24 hours elapses, you can clear without sanding.

When you get your materials I might be able to offer more specific recommendations.

Have fun.

[DarkMonster620]

dp,

got following customer's bike, for various reasons, the Termignoni stickers found their way of the cans and left their mark;

what can be done to take care of this issue? Sand, clear, polish? Other CF parts are side covers and fr sprocket cover and they sort of need some 'care' too . . .

*At time of photograph, there was no water so I couldn't wash bike before delivering back to customer

[ducpainter]

dp,

got following customer's bike, for various reasons, the Termignoni stickers found their way of the cans and left their mark;

what can be done to take care of this issue? Sand, clear, polish? Other CF parts are side covers and fr sprocket cover and they sort of need some 'care' too . . .

*At time of photograph, there was no water so I couldn't wash bike before delivering back to customer

I'd try to sand and clear, but there's no guarantee it won't show slightly if the c/f has discolored.

[DarkMonster620]

I'd try to sand and clear, but there's no guarantee it won't show slightly if the c/f has discolored.

Thanks . . . no way to tint the clear slightly so that it 'hides' any discoloration?

[ducpainter]

Thanks . . . no way to tint the clear slightly so that it 'hides' any discoloration?

Not really because the two areas will change differently.

C/F sucks...

[DarkMonster620]

Not really because the two areas will change differently.

C/F sucks...

yup . . .

how's the toe?

[LookoutforChris]

Maybe one of the two Black Metallics...

http://www.colorrite.com/product/ducati-black-metallic-2087.cfm

http://www.colorrite.com/product/ducati-black-metallic-2-2097.cfm

In my experience the colorite stuff doesn't match well and is pretty expensive.

I have most colors computer scanned and tint as necessary.

Thanks for the links.  I ordered every Ducati black I could find as a pen for testing a while back.  So far I'm thinking I can't get what I want from colorright.  Here's a photo of a quick test on the cut-off from my tail.  The original metalic black has a fine gold/multi-colored fleck to it.



The best match is 7616, though in the right light it doesn't have the correct amount of fleck.  All the other colors are pretty off.  These were from paint pens over un-prepped surfaces just for a quick test.  If I had a tinny chip or scratch I'd use 7616:  http://colorrite.com/product/ducati-metallic-black-2226.cfm

Any suggestions for where to get custom matched paint?  I would be nice to get a pre-filled spray can because I don't have any painting equipment.