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Re: DIY Painting Tips
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May 20, 2009, 05:14:44 AM »
Quote from: WTSDS on May 20, 2009, 05:12:22 AM
I used a can of exterior house paint, an oil based enamel, labeled " aluminium " brushed on the front sump fins which had lost the coating
At first it looked too bright and silvery,stuck out like doggie dangles, but after a few thousand K's it has settled in nicely, the heat doesn't seem to be bothering it either
It really is amazing how cool our aircooled engines run.
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DucPainter,
How do I/painter match up the stock paint? Having the frame touched up, tail chop weld closed/painted.
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Quote from: fouramdesigns on May 20, 2009, 06:39:57 AM
DucPainter,
How do I/painter match up the stock paint? Having the frame touched up, tail chop weld closed/painted.
There are companies that offer many of the colors. I usually start there and tint, or get a color scan done and do the same tinting process.
It's not possible to scan a frame though. Is it the gold?
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Quote from: ducpainter on May 21, 2009, 03:09:00 AM
There are companies that offer many of the colors. I usually start there and tint, or get a color scan done and do the same tinting process.
It's not possible to scan a frame though. Is it the gold?
No, the Graphite grey.
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Check into Nexxa or Akzo Nobel. They should offer something close enough to tint.
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A buddy of mine painted the utter and the header on his monster with rattle can engine enamel. He scuffed the metal and degreased it. He gave it numerous coats with a 30 minute drying time in between. Several spots on the utter started to chip. Any ideas?
Is there such a thing as high temp. metal edging primer?
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Quote from: Zaster on May 31, 2009, 06:26:48 PM
A buddy of mine painted the utter and the header on his monster with rattle can engine enamel. He scuffed the metal and degreased it. He gave it numerous coats with a 30 minute drying time in between. Several spots on the utter started to chip. Any ideas?
Is there such a thing as high temp. metal edging primer?
I'm not familiar with a high temp etching primer.
He might have better luck using a higher temp rated paint.
Headers get really hot...hotter than most engine enamels can take.
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Quote from: ducpainter on June 01, 2009, 03:17:41 AM
I'm not familiar with a high temp etching primer.
He might have better luck using a higher temp rated paint.
Headers get really hot...hotter than most engine enamels can take.
What temp. range would the paint have to withstand ?
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Quote from: Zaster on June 01, 2009, 11:28:19 AM
What temp. range would the paint have to withstand ?
I'd guess around 12-1500 degrees for a header.
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Re: DIY Painting Tips
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Quote from: ducpainter on June 01, 2009, 05:38:52 PM
I'd guess around 12-1500 degrees for a header.
Thanks Ducpainter,
I'll see what I can find...if I remember correctly BBQ paint
in a rattle can might match that rating.
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When I was into air cooled VWs I tried every high temp and BBQ paint I could find. None of them held onto the header right next to the exhaust port, too hot. They all flaked off. Also, they all tended to sort of chalk off over time and even on cooler parts where the paint held it would still tend to rust after a while.
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A couple questions for DP or anyone else who might know. I've got a 2000 900ie tank that I'm going to repair and repaint. It has the corsa (I think it's called) design with the checkered flag on each side and stripe down the middle. First question is, are the checkered flaga and stripe decals? I'm guessing yes. And, if they are, do I need to remove them to repaint or can I sand them down? I plan on repainting in a simple solid black..........perhaps matte black.
Thanks very much in advance.
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Quote from: pitbull on June 05, 2009, 05:48:28 PM
A couple questions for DP or anyone else who might know. I've got a 2000 900ie tank that I'm going to repair and repaint. It has the corsa (I think it's called) design with the checkered flag on each side and stripe down the middle. First question is, are the checkered flaga and stripe decals? I'm guessing yes. And, if they are, do I need to remove them to repaint or can I sand them down? I plan on repainting in a simple solid black..........perhaps matte black.
Thanks very much in advance.
The checkerboard is painted....at least all the ones I've seen are.
Ducati has used two types of stripes. The S2R and newer are all vinyl.
The older M900 and S4 are painted with a vinyl border stripe.
That vinyl needs to be removed.
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Quote from: ducpainter on June 05, 2009, 08:42:07 PM
The checkerboard is painted....at least all the ones I've seen are.
Ducati has used two types of stripes. The S2R and newer are all vinyl.
The older M900 and S4 are painted with a vinyl border stripe.
That vinyl needs to be removed.
Your the best DP..........thanks very much
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June 16, 2009, 12:04:06 AM »
Just wanted to share. I installed a Zard exhaust in the L/R High Mount. The bracket furnished for the left side was fugly bare ss w/heat discoloration from the cutting process. I surface prepped (sandblast) and coated with Rust-Oleum Auto gray sandable primer and top-coated with Rust-Oleum Auto High Gloss Cherry Red (209587). I wasn't expecting much for color match but was totally surprised at the result. The paint has been on about 2 weeks now and I can't tell the difference from the factory color under any type of light. Considering I coughed up maybe $10 for the two this is a great way to handle the little nik-nak jobs like maybe touch-up for tail chops.
Word of caution - having been a professional painter you will never get the quality / durability of a "pro" paint job out of a can.
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