DIY Painting Tips

[DarkMonster620]

Don't know that product.

I'm thinking like PPG DX330 or DuPont 3939 or DuPont Prep-Sol.

Your parts have been painted for a while. None of those products should hurt it if used according to instructions.

If the parts are less than 30 days old wait.

it's like the Purple something degreaser...

[ducpainter]

it's like the Purple something degreaser...

Most degreasers will remove wax to some extent.

Try it on a bottom edge.

[DarkMonster620]

Most degreasers will remove wax to some extent.

Try it on a bottom edge.

Ok, tks

[Bones]

so i've been going nuts trying to plan my tank painting project using only rattle can technology. since I am going for the dark look and don;t need anything fancy.  (doesn't have to match OEM dark paint since I am doing the cowl and fender as well, and I wanted to go a bit darker than the stock dark look).


I was going to go with the duplicolor truck/SUV universal black with a krylon flat coat over it, but this will not provide protection from gasoline. I want that protection.

so here is where I am going:

it's an S2r tank with clear over vinyl striping.

• sand off enough clearcoat to get the stripes and decals off. degrease, smoothen out, etc.
• spray on duplicolor filler primer, light sanding to smoothen it out (I believe their primers are lacquer)
• use a 1 stage acrylic urethane flat black paint (found a reasonably priced kit on Eastwood's site that includes the activator) using eastwood's version of the preval sprayer (since I don't have a spray gun).
• cross fingers

what do you think Nate?

[ducpainter]

so i've been going nuts trying to plan my tank painting project using only rattle can technology. since I am going for the dark look and don;t need anything fancy.  (doesn't have to match OEM dark paint since I am doing the cowl and fender as well, and I wanted to go a bit darker than the stock dark look).


I was going to go with the duplicolor truck/SUV universal black with a krylon flat coat over it, but this will not provide protection from gasoline. I want that protection.

so here is where I am going:

it's an S2r tank with clear over vinyl striping.

• sand off enough clearcoat to get the stripes and decals off. degrease, smoothen out, etc.
• spray on duplicolor filler primer, light sanding to smoothen it out (I believe their primers are lacquer)
• use a 1 stage acrylic urethane flat black paint (found a reasonably priced kit on Eastwood's site that includes the activator) using eastwood's version of the preval sprayer (since I don't have a spray gun).
• cross fingers

what do you think Nate?

I think you're on the right track.

Do all the degreasing first.

Lacquer primer shrinks. So use it only to fill minor scratches. It won't level much.

I believe you'll have trouble with the Pre-Val with activated urethane. I can't get that stuff out of one of those and I used to be pretty good with a rattle can. You may consider a test panel and adjusting the reducer to achieve flow.

Make sure you spray wet enough to get flow and you'll probably be OK. Getting closer is not the solution. You need to slow your hand down, or keep putting it on till it flows. Keep in mind if it flows level from the droplets it can also 'flow' right off.

[Bones]

thanks, DP. this should be interesting. but what's the fun of working on your bike and having everything go right the first  time?

[Bones]

DP,

you think I should do a sealer primer over the filler primer or is that overkill?

is it ok to do 2 or 3 coats of primer before the final color coat?

[ducpainter]

DP,

you think I should do a sealer primer over the filler primer or is that overkill?

is it ok to do 2 or 3 coats of primer before the final color coat?

I use a sealer. I also only use activated products except for color.

Sealers save time because it usually takes fewer coats of color to get the result you're looking for. Activated sealers also improve adhesion.

What are you planning on using?

[Bones]

I have a few nicks on the tank and was going to apply some glazing and spot putty. I already put on a coat of rattle can filler primer (lacquer-based).  I have to do sme more spot sanding where I'm putting the spot filler and was going to do another coat of primer using rattle can Sealer primer.

[ducpainter]

Sealer always makes it easier to cover.

Be careful about too many coats, and heavy coats.

It will really lengthen dry times.

[Bones]

thanks.

and the fun continues...

[TAftonomos]

I'm going back to 999 masters on the monster to clean it up a bit.

I'd like to paint or somehow change the color on the masters from the cast aluminum to something darker, maybe a deep bronze?

Whats the best way to do this?  Since parts arn't available to rebuild the master, stripping it down and PC'ing it seems risky at best.  I've tried using that 2 part caliper paint in the past, but I don't have the ability to spray it, and I can never get the brush strokes out.  I'm sure there is a way, just not sure what that is (heat gun?)

Help please

[ducpainter]

I'm going back to 999 masters on the monster to clean it up a bit.

I'd like to paint or somehow change the color on the masters from the cast aluminum to something darker, maybe a deep bronze?

Whats the best way to do this?  Since parts arn't available to rebuild the master, stripping it down and PC'ing it seems risky at best.  I've tried using that 2 part caliper paint in the past, but I don't have the ability to spray it, and I can never get the brush strokes out.  I'm sure there is a way, just not sure what that is (heat gun?)

Help please

My expertise is not with a brush.

I think I'd try using a little slow drying urethane reducer...

or figure out how to spray it.

[DarkMonster620]

I'm going back to 999 masters on the monster to clean it up a bit.

I'd like to paint or somehow change the color on the masters from the cast aluminum to something darker, maybe a deep bronze?

Whats the best way to do this?  Since parts arn't available to rebuild the master, stripping it down and PC'ing it seems risky at best.  I've tried using that 2 part caliper paint in the past, but I don't have the ability to spray it, and I can never get the brush strokes out.  I'm sure there is a way, just not sure what that is (heat gun?)

Help please

I'm not a painter by any means, but, I've got a set of 749S masters, same as yours no levers, I just cleaned the whole surface with brake cleaner, dregreaser, some brillo pads, and some more brake cleaner, I then just bought a can of the color I want the body of the master to be and masked the covers, which, for the time being, are painted with gold paint[don't tell my wife where her paint was used] and sprayed with the dark charcoal grey paint I bought at the hardware store.

[TAftonomos]

I'd assume I want a 2 part paint at a min on something like this.

Think a preval can will work to spray epoxy?