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Author Topic: DIY Painting Tips  (Read 395159 times)
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« Reply #60 on: June 01, 2008, 03:26:32 PM »
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what base and clear products do you use when spraying a "dark" finish?
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« Reply #61 on: June 01, 2008, 04:55:12 PM »
Quote from: 804monster on June 01, 2008, 03:26:32 PM
Nate
what base and clear products do you use when spraying a "dark" finish?
I had a dark scanned and used a PPG clear. The metallic appearance isn't perfect. The flat finish screws with the camera.

The PPG flat clear is DCU 2060.

It's a really nice appearance but it has a short shelf life.

Now I use DCU 2021 and SU 4985 flattener at the eggshell ratio. I don't have it off the top of my head
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« Reply #62 on: June 03, 2008, 06:20:35 PM »
I hate painting dark
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« Reply #63 on: June 03, 2008, 06:51:38 PM »
Quote from: 804monster on June 03, 2008, 06:20:35 PM
I hate painting dark
not my fave either...

the biggest issue is metallic presence with the flat clear.

I spent two days tinting a silver dark because the scan was so bad.
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« Reply #64 on: June 08, 2008, 05:23:34 PM »
What's going on in here? Wink


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« Reply #65 on: June 08, 2008, 05:48:48 PM »
Quote from: red baron on June 08, 2008, 05:23:34 PM
What's going on in here? Wink


How did I miss this? Tongue
Just not payin' attention I guess.   Grin
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« Reply #66 on: June 10, 2008, 06:48:30 AM »
Hi all, I have a smal scratch on my red frame. Is there a way to touch up that?
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« Reply #67 on: June 10, 2008, 09:31:42 AM »
Quote from: DJ on May 07, 2008, 08:58:44 AM
Hi DucPainter!

Yep, planning on finally tearing the ol' girl down to the bare metal this summer and getting her all purty. She runs like a demon, now time to cleaner her back up and make her look as good as she sounds. Wink

I picked up a 30gal air compressor and two paint guns recently (large and small) but I'm a total newb with painting so will definitely be picking yer brain in the next few months! Cool

dj

Im planning on doing the same thing! ... But i'm wiating to the Winter months .. Up here in Maine we need to enjoy the weather while we got it!! 
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« Reply #68 on: June 10, 2008, 10:00:32 AM »
What's involved in Painting Wheels .. My gut tells me a GOOD CLEANING, then spray em.  I was going to wait till the winter months when I do my frame, but if Ducpainter tells me its a weekend project then maybe, just maybe, I'll tackle it next rainy weekend!!
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« Reply #69 on: June 10, 2008, 12:35:01 PM »
Quote from: clittelm750 on June 10, 2008, 10:00:32 AM
What's involved in Painting Wheels .. My gut tells me a GOOD CLEANING, then spray em.  I was going to wait till the winter months when I do my frame, but if Ducpainter tells me its a weekend project then maybe, just maybe, I'll tackle it next rainy weekend!!

Cleaning is the key to any paintwork. It's the first step.

If you shortcut the basics the job will basically   Grin   suck

Then you have to sand...and treat any bare aluminum.

Then a primer...scuff... and paint.

The work can be done in a weekend, but the paint will be too soft to mount tires for several days under optimal drying conditions.
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« Reply #70 on: June 11, 2008, 08:48:46 AM »
Alright so maybe not a weekend thing .. unless its a three day rainy crappy weekend followed by rainy days .. I can't drive the car to work on a sunny day without kicking myself in the pants all the way home ... so, back to the point at hand ...  I remove the wheels, clean the crap out of them .. what do I treat the aluminum with? (I've got 58K miles on those rims so I'm sure there is some Alum. showing somewhere!) .. should I "scuff" before the primer? .. What grit do I "Scuff" with? I just want a glossy Black (from the gold) how many caots am I looking at?  I am not looking for any show bike or anything but don't want people to look and say nice "Krylon touch Buddy" .. that being said, should a rattle can do the trick?!

And my last question ... Should I capitalize on my next tire change and do it with the rubber off? or just tape and spray?
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« Reply #71 on: June 11, 2008, 09:30:45 AM »
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Alright so maybe not a weekend thing .. unless its a three day rainy crappy weekend followed by rainy days .. I can't drive the car to work on a sunny day without kicking myself in the pants all the way home ... so, back to the point at hand ...  I remove the wheels, clean the crap out of them .. what do I treat the aluminum with? (I've got 58K miles on those rims so I'm sure there is some Alum. showing somewhere!) .. should I "scuff" before the primer? .. What grit do I "Scuff" with? I just want a glossy Black (from the gold) how many caots am I looking at?  I am not looking for any show bike or anything but don't want people to look and say nice "Krylon touch Buddy" .. that being said, should a rattle can do the trick?!

And my last question ... Should I capitalize on my next tire change and do it with the rubber off? or just tape and spray?


Sand with 400 dry...use a scotch-brite in the areas you can't effectively sand with paper.

Clean again to remove sanding dust. You can use a post sanding cleaner.

Go to a PBE store and buy aluminum etching material. Follow the directions on the label.

Spot prime the treated areas...you don't need to do the entire wheel.

Scuff the primed areas smooth with 400 dry.

If you want a rattle can job...go for it. I don't recommend rattle can products.

If you want to mask the tires...go for it. That's not how I do it.
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« Reply #72 on: June 11, 2008, 09:43:19 AM »
Quote from: ducpainter on June 11, 2008, 09:30:45 AM
If you want to mask the tires...go for it. That's not how I do it.

one tip

a buddy of mine painted a wheel wit hthe tire on -- he deflated it and broke the bead, then taped the tire to get paint on the full lip.  painted, waited 2-3 days for it to dry then rebeaded the wheel and reinflated.
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« Reply #73 on: June 11, 2008, 12:50:01 PM »
Hmmmm ..... Anyone have some black rims they wanna sell me cheap!  Huh? Grin
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« Reply #74 on: June 11, 2008, 07:53:31 PM »
thanks for your advice nate. i used a two stage process and, after some test panels, got the dark down pat. i still loath it though.
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