Billet Bolt-on v.s. Monster Mod

[kopfjäger]

^^ nice avatar. 

[rule62]

Forgive us if we don't all rush to meet your personal demands all at once

Seriously, we could split it into two boards, but hmmm, what's the right way to sum up that idea?

Oh yeah, "that's a bad idea."

No demands, just a question.  I like some bolt on stuff.  It looks good.  Just think there might be enough of it to have it's own section.  Now I feel like such a rabble rouser.  Ideas are ideas.  Opinions of those ideas... well we all have opinions.   

[DucHead]

No demands, just a question.  I like some bolt on stuff.  It looks good.  Just think there might be enough of it to have it's own section.  Now I feel like such a rabble rouser.  Ideas are ideas.  Opinions of those ideas... well we all have opinions.   

I think there should be a separate board for yellow bikes.  I don't like yellow, and I hate having to wade through pictures of yellow bikes to get to those with proper color schemes.

[psycledelic]

Good Lord.  Irritability level elevated.   Why is everyone so pissy today. 

-back on topic-

The topics need to be together.  If they were not, I would never visit the "modification" page, thus never read a topic that sounds easy but quickly gets over my head and leaves my bike scattered across the garage while I am scrounging to find help.  Where's the fun in that?

If you don't like to read the bolt on threads, just stay away from the titles like, "Should I try a 14t front sprocket" or "Check out my new bar end mirrors".   

[ungeheuer]

I think there should be a separate board for yellow bikes.  I don't like yellow, and I hate having to wade through pictures of yellow bikes to get to those with proper color schemes.

 

"your vision is right, my vision is wrong - I'm sorry for smudging the air with my song..............."

[needtorque]

Here is my probelm.  The original poster is only talkin about fab work vs. bolt-ons as to what really qualifies a custom bike.  For me there is more to it than that.  I have seen some incredible fab work done on bikes and yet the bikes look like crap.  I have also seen some bikes with tons of bolt ons that look like crap.  I have also seen the reverse of these. 

Whether it is bolt-on parts or fab work there has to be a vision behind it or it will not all flow together.  This is probably the hardest part for me as I am not very artistic but there are guys on this board who use bolt-ons and can make a very unique bike (and beautiful) with these "cookie-cutter" parts.  There are also ones who can do the same with actual fab work. 

Dont knock the bikes because of how they got there.  In most cases of the extremely modified (bolt-on or fabbed) I could never have gotten to the point where most of the owners got to because I just don't have the visionary ability.

[supertjeduc]

I bought this yesterday

TIG welder (kemppi mastertig 1500s)
So now  i can get serious 

[mstevens]

I think there should be a separate board for yellow bikes.  I don't like yellow, and I hate having to wade through pictures of yellow bikes to get to those with proper color schemes.

Why is everyone so pissy today.

It really always does come back to the yellow, huh?

Y'all are just jealous that yellow is faster.

"Yellow" is an incredibly odd-looking word, isn't it? Great, now I've got that stuck in my head.

[rule62]

How about a "fabrication" sub-forum?  Again... just an idea.  As the DMF grows and the talents of its members grow, is there a need or desire for such a thing.

<As for the personal jabs... They say more about the person in which they were once stored than the one over which they are now poured.> 

[teddy037.2]

Here is my probelm.  The original poster is only talkin about fab work vs. bolt-ons as to what really qualifies a custom bike.

that's not what I got out of it at all... OP was asking about a fab-only board

Any of this "speedymotoberonizoma" billet, bolt on, bling bothering any of you purists?  Is there a difference anymore between a "mod" and an "ohh that's pretty"?  Should we have seperate board sub-forums for those who actually modify their bikes and those who just figured out righty-tighty, lefty-loosey and how to use two sided tape? 

[sno_duc]

I think it's a 'vision'/ personal taste thing. Each of us has a 'vision' of what the perfect bike would be. Mine is different from yours, is different from......and so on and so forth. Some have the talents and resources to get very very close to their vision of a perfect bike. Others are more practical, they see billet bits that aren't exactly what they head in mind but when you take $$$ in to account close enough. At various times in the past I've had access to CNC machinery that I could use on weekends when they were idle. Right now our local communty college has a machine shop course ( I've had my journeymen card since the early 80's ) , were else can you 'rent' a machine shop for $300 a semester. Everyone can always dig out the yellow pages and find a job shop that will fab anything you want for a price $$$$. The question is how much is my time worth? + How close is close enough?

[junior varsity]

i'd prefer not to see a lot of chopped up ducati frames where little to no engineering was done to see if the new 'design' can handle the stress from hitting a pothole with the suspension already loaded by a brisk application of the throttle. but people do it, and its interesting to glance at.

there are lots of posts of people asking questions about "where do i get x,y,z bolt on nonsense?" well, these too used to frustrate me, its the internet, use google (or maybe BING!), but then as life got busier, I understood that not all people spend their free time carefully and methodically examining the internet and noting where parts may be had.

bolt on parts don't bother me. stretched swingarms do bother me. see also: ape hangers.

i would also like to see the yellow bikes and related posts moved to a seperate forum.

[needtorque]

that's not what I got out of it at all... OP was asking about a fab-only board

With the quote you included you showed my point.  He basically said if you bolt it on it is not a mod.  Any deviation from stock is a mod (modification) whether it is fabbed or bolt on.

In this case I would say then that we need separate boards for those who make their own tail chop kit and those who but the kits like the CW tailchop.

The ACC & MODS section fits them all and does a pretty good job describing what can be found there.

[sno_duc]

i would also like to see the yellow bikes and related posts moved to a seperate forum.

Everyone knows there is only one proper color for Italian sports machinery (cars/bikes), and that color is RED. So why not a sub-forum for the deviants that opt to be different. And whats with chrome, thats an American v-twin thing.

[Duck-Stew]

I can see the OP's point, but since this is the Accessories & Mods board, it does encompass both bolt-on kits and custom builds.  Since (IMO) it's a grey area between what's a bolt-on mod and a bolt-on that got modified it would be hard to distinguish some of the posts and some would be easy as pie to seperate...

And to address the thread-jack-ary that's arose:  I own a Blue/White Monster, a Green Monster and am building a Green/White SuperSport.