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Started by Speedbag, September 06, 2009, 08:11:18 AM

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cyrus buelton

#30
September 08, 2009, 05:12:13 AM
I kind of like that and not sure if I should.
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NAKID

#31
September 08, 2009, 05:15:24 AM
Anything more recent than 21 months ago?
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cyrus buelton

#32
September 08, 2009, 05:21:54 AM
Quote from: NAKID on September 08, 2009, 05:15:24 AM
Anything more recent than 21 months ago?

I couldn't find anything.

My guess is when the global economy tanked, they stopped working on it.
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Randimus Maximus

#33
September 08, 2009, 05:23:05 AM
Quote from: cyrus buelton on September 08, 2009, 05:21:54 AM
I couldn't find anything.

My guess is when the global economy tanked, they stopped working on it.

As well they should.

Bick

#34
September 08, 2009, 05:29:08 AM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on September 08, 2009, 05:23:05 AM
As well they should.

I do see it as somewhat of a sell out, but if it makes money to save to company...  You gotta do what you gotta do.

Where would Ducati be if they tried to stick with just the SBK line?
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#35
September 08, 2009, 05:33:15 AM
Quote from: Bick on September 08, 2009, 05:29:08 AM
I do see it as somewhat of a sell out, but if it makes money to save to company...  You gotta do what you gotta do.

Where would Ducati be if they tried to stick with just the SBK line?

Unlike Ducati, both Ferarri and Porsche are part of huge auto groups (Fiat & VW, respectively).  As such, they don't need to diversify their lines for the group to remain profitable.

Bick

#36
September 08, 2009, 07:06:49 AM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on September 08, 2009, 05:33:15 AM
Unlike Ducati, both Ferarri and Porsche are part of huge auto groups (Fiat & VW, respectively).  As such, they don't need to diversify their lines for the group to remain profitable.

So it is ok for one division to leach off another as opposed to try to adapt to market demands, and try to maintain their own profitability?

If you are basing your opinion on maintaining heritage, what would your thoughts be if Ferrari were to revert to manufacturing farm equipment?
It's all in the grind, Sizemore. Can't be too fine, can't be too coarse. This, my friend, is a science. I mean you're looking at the guy that believed all the commercials. You know, about the "be all you can be." I made coffee through Desert Storm. I made coffee through Panama while everyone else got to fight, got to be a Ranger.

* A man can never have too much whiskey, too many books, or too much ammunition *

bluemoco

#37
September 08, 2009, 07:30:09 AM
Hey - this looks like fun:

http://www.wreckedexotics.com/458crashcontest/

$500 to the person who guesses when an owner can crash the first 458!   [laugh]   [popcorn]
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swampduc

#38
September 08, 2009, 07:31:32 AM
Quote from: Bick on September 08, 2009, 07:06:49 AM
So it is ok for one division to leach off another as opposed to try to adapt to market demands, and try to maintain their own profitability?

If you are basing your opinion on maintaining heritage, what would your thoughts be if Ferrari were to revert to manufacturing farm equipment?
You mean Lamborghini, right?  ???
Or did Ferrari ever make tractors?
And Lambo still does, btw.
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Bick

#39
September 08, 2009, 07:41:54 AM
Quote from: swampduc on September 08, 2009, 07:31:32 AM
You mean Lamborghini, right?  ???
Or did Ferrari ever make tractors?
And Lambo still does, btw.

Ferrari, like Lambo, started with tractors.  I think they may still be making them, as well.
It's all in the grind, Sizemore. Can't be too fine, can't be too coarse. This, my friend, is a science. I mean you're looking at the guy that believed all the commercials. You know, about the "be all you can be." I made coffee through Desert Storm. I made coffee through Panama while everyone else got to fight, got to be a Ranger.

* A man can never have too much whiskey, too many books, or too much ammunition *

stateprez

#40
September 08, 2009, 07:57:03 AM
Quote from: Bick on September 08, 2009, 07:41:54 AM
Ferrari, like Lambo, started with tractors.  I think they may still be making them, as well.

Ferrari tractors is a different company.  Scuderia Ferrari never made tractors.  Enzo worked at CMN and then Alfa before starting his own company.  

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enzo_Ferrari

Lambo still makes tractors.
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Speedbag

#41
September 08, 2009, 02:24:19 PM
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Randimus Maximus

#42
September 08, 2009, 03:12:46 PM
Quote from: Bick on September 08, 2009, 07:06:49 AM
So it is ok for one division to leach off another as opposed to try to adapt to market demands, and try to maintain their own profitability?

If you are basing your opinion on maintaining heritage, what would your thoughts be if Ferrari were to revert to manufacturing farm equipment?

I'm suggesting not entering a shrinking niche market (mid or full size luxury SUV) to prop up the sports car line as well as maintaining the heritage.

DoubleEagle

#43
September 08, 2009, 09:18:54 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on September 07, 2009, 09:10:43 PM
To bring this back on topic....Ferrari seems to be doing okay sticking to sports cars.
They have their F1 racing to support there image of a road going race car and they are pretty much hand built , they only build a fraction of the cars that Porsche does and they charge at least double or triple the price of most Porsches.

They will always , at least for the foreseeable future have a mystic and image that no other car maker will have.

There should always be a market for the 911 as long as they leave the engine in the rear and don't change the profile that has been with us since the mid '60s.

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stateprez

#44
September 09, 2009, 05:14:53 AM
Quote from: DoubleEagle on September 08, 2009, 09:18:54 PM

There should always be a market for the 911 as long as they leave the engine in the rear and don't change the profile that has been with us since the mid '60s.

Dolph       :)

....Porsche will keep making it as long as they're making $28k per car.
http://www.leftlanenews.com/report-porsche-profits-28000-per-car.html

Ferrari will never make an suv unless the FIA mandates them for F1 racing. If hell froze over, and they did, I can promise you it wouldn't look like an Audi Q7 with a 612 front clip photoshopped on.
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