2006 620, what to look for?

Started by Syscrush, September 09, 2009, 07:09:41 AM

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cyrus buelton

There are ways around not having the red key.


I believe Motogpfan found a way when he bought his trashed multistrada which became Ducati's Motard (note: that is opinion, not any facts to back it up).
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Quote from: cyrus buelton on September 12, 2009, 12:39:12 PM
There are ways around not having the red key.


I believe Motogpfan found a way when he bought his trashed multistrada which became Ducati's Motard (note: that is opinion, not any facts to back it up).

complete aftermarket swap was the other option when Mac had his 999, but going the DP route still had problems...

seevtsaab

It was a wise man indeed, who stated,

"better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

I think it has been well established, again, you may, or may not, ever need a red key.

[popcorn]

Oh - I'm a democrat, and yup, there are plenty who think me a fool.

acemoney

Quote from: seevtsaab on September 14, 2009, 06:15:13 AM
"better to be thought a fool, than to open your mouth and remove all doubt"

I think it has been well established, again, you may, or may not, ever need a red key.

i like removing all doubt. and yes it has been VERY WELL established that "you may or may not need it".....but what i'm trying to establish is that only 1/10 of 1% will ever need it, meaning that it's more important to install a lightning rod on your bike because you have a better chance of getting hit with lightning while riding than ever using the red key.... MAKING THE KEY NOT AS IMPORTANT as people make it out to be.

Syscrush

God this thread got stupid.

We got the bike, with 2 black keys, the red key, and the code card.  The original owner was very meticulous - even had the OEM riser bolts in a ziploc bag inside a bubblewrap envelope. :)

The original owner also had a 2-piece Dainese leather suit which fit my wife, so we scored a good deal on that, too.  The bike looks great and she's very happy with both purchases - looking forward to putting some serious miles on it in the spring.  We have a few nice pics but they all have her on the bike and reading the way that this thread has gone off the rails, there's no way I'm posting pics of my wife on here.  ;)

As for the red key - this is a personal issue - some will be comfortable without having it, knowing that it's only needed in rare circumstances.  Others will refuse to buy a bike that has what's effectively a self-destruct feature if the override/revive mechanism isn't provided.  Then some others will resort to non-sequiturs about party affiliation, name calling, and general assaholism.  Personally, I'm in the 2nd camp, but wouldn't argue/fight with someone in the first camp, or waste my time on someone in the third.

Thanks to all who provided helpful information!

TiNi

congrats on the 620  [thumbsup]
i've got an '05 that i adore.

please don't be soured by the way this thread went... it's not typical.

if your wife is into it, send her over to the women's section of the forum,
we need more ladies on here :)

have fun with the 620  [moto]

ducpainter

Quote from: Syscrush on October 18, 2009, 05:46:57 AM
God this thread got stupid.

We got the bike, with 2 black keys, the red key, and the code card.  The original owner was very meticulous - even had the OEM riser bolts in a ziploc bag inside a bubblewrap envelope. :)

The original owner also had a 2-piece Dainese leather suit which fit my wife, so we scored a good deal on that, too.  The bike looks great and she's very happy with both purchases - looking forward to putting some serious miles on it in the spring.  We have a few nice pics but they all have her on the bike and reading the way that this thread has gone off the rails, there's no way I'm posting pics of my wife on here.  ;)

As for the red key - this is a personal issue - some will be comfortable without having it, knowing that it's only needed in rare circumstances.  Others will refuse to buy a bike that has what's effectively a self-destruct feature if the override/revive mechanism isn't provided.  Then some others will resort to non-sequiturs about party affiliation, name calling, and general assaholism.  Personally, I'm in the 2nd camp, but wouldn't argue/fight with someone in the first camp, or waste my time on someone in the third.

Thanks to all who provided helpful information!
So it wasn't just me that thought that? ;)

Congrats on the purchase. I hope your wife has fun with it.
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Dave R

#37
First off, sounds like a great deal on the used Monster!  Congrats!

for the rest of you, here is a full description of how the immobilizer system was designed to function I found using Google  ;)   
http://www.ducatiwiki.net/index.php?title=Immobilizer_Description_and_Specifications_Manual

Until the last few years no one was able to copy key codes and the only option was to use your red key or replace all the associated components.  Yes there are some options nowadays.   I will caution those who do have a red key.  If you run a DP ECU in your bike and the red key is ever used it will marry the ECU to your immobilizer.  If this never happens the DP ECU could be used in another bike.   The original ECU's are married to the immobilizer at the factory, pretty much turns them into paper weights.  
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Raux

Dave,

please clarify how the new monsters work with the ECUs. if someone has mounted the DP ECU how do they mate up the gauges and keys.. AND if they sell they DP ECU.. how does someone else use it?
is the new immobilizer without the red key different? do you need the code card to be able to use someone else's DP ECU?


Dave R

no need to mate the DP ECU, plug and play.  Red key will permanently marry it.
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rule62

Can't I just paint one of my black keys, red? 

Privateer

Quote from: Syscrush on October 18, 2009, 05:46:57 AM
The bike looks great and she's very happy with both purchases - looking forward to putting some serious miles on it in the spring. 

all 3 of those things are really the most important.  Glad it all worked out for you.


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Andy
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Syscrush


acemoney

Quote from: Syscrush on October 18, 2009, 05:46:57 AM
God this thread got stupid.

really? is that what you tell all people who try to answer YOUR questions?


Quote from: Syscrush on October 18, 2009, 05:46:57 AM
Thanks to all who provided helpful information!

no problem, it was my pleasure

Syscrush

Quote from: acemoney on October 20, 2009, 09:10:36 PM
really? is that what you tell all people who try to answer YOUR questions?
Yes.