Ceramic Coating

[bryant8]

is that a SIL?  that is multiple pieces, no?

Looks like the DP midpipes for the 1098 to add to the half system

If it's like the 848 full system, it is multi piece

[Duc L'Smart]

Looks like the DP midpipes for the 1098 to add to the half system

You are correct.
I looked at the stock midpipes on the 1098, & it is a 2 piece system. 1 piece is long, with 2 90 bends, & 1 >180 degree bend.
The other pice has 90 degree bends as well. 57mm is less than 2 1/4 inches.

The Paul Smart pipes are smaller, although a little straighter, but each piece has some serious bends.

[♣ McKraut ♣]

FWIW:

Rich,
We used to be located in Dallas but are now in Wichita Falls, TX.
Typically, Harley pipes/headers 27" or less in size are $104.00 ( +Tax
and return S/H) we offer Satin Black or CermaKrome - other colors
include Gray and a Titanium finish but none of our customers ever
selects those colors.
Coating the interiors of the pipe is not offered as the critical stage
of the entire process involves blasting the surface with aluminum
oxide in order for the ceramic coating to first adhere to the surface
and then bond to it. When the insides of pipes are coated the coating
passes out the exhaust. The only way to prepare the inside of a pipe
is with chemical etching using acid. Using this process would get us
so far into the EPA's field of view that the would probably set up
shop right next to us.
We would offer a discount of 20% for 5 or more - but only on the Satin
Black. The CermaKrome finish involves additional stages of polishing
that is labor intensive. We do not offer polished black coatings
because they become satin - like with time.
Ceramic coatings are thin layer coatings that are somewhere between
0.0015 -  0.0020" thick so, essentially they add nothing to the
finished size. The coatings are good to a temperature of 2000 degrees
farenheit and are cured in our industrial oven at 750 degrees
fahrenheit with final cure occuring after operating temperatutes are
achieved on the bike.
Hope that helps.
Regards,
Jim
Performance Ceramics LLC

[Duc L'Smart]

Thanks McKraut

I wonder how the CermaKrome finish compares to Stainless Steel?

[ducatiz]

FWIW:

interesting.

performance coatings uses both an aluminum oxide blast AND an acid etch.

[Duc L'Smart]

performance coatings uses both an aluminum oxide blast AND an acid etch.

Please quantify... Is that good or bad? Do other people not do that??

[ducatiz]

Please quantify... Is that good or bad? Do other people not do that??

I know HPC and Performance Coatings do it so they can coat the inside.  I think you'll see wide variation -- alu-ceramic coatings are not that exotic anymore.