All New MV Agusta Brutale for 2010?

[Travman]

Supposedly this an all new bike with 85% new parts.  The only things I see that are new are the wheels and the integrated turn signals & mirrors.  I'm afraid this may be Harley-Davidson's idea of an all new bike.   

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/28september09_redesignedmvagustas.htm

[kopfjäger]

What are you afraid of?

[orangelion03]

Mama mia, thassa nice!!

Sat on a Brutale a few weeks ago, and the rider's view of the tank is heavenly 

[kopfjäger]

BRUTALE NEW ERA: 85% of the components are new and were DESIGNED BY MV AGUSTA

There is little left of the old Brutale model, as 85% of the parts have been completely redesigned. From the aesthetics, to the engine, to the rolling chassis, no component can be interchanged with those of the previous versions.

Among the new parts:

Front wheel rim, either gravity die-cast, or forged
Front brake disk
Suspensions Internals (oil dynamics and components of the front fork)
Instrument cluster (design, logic definition and information handling)
Brake pump with integrated tank
Headlight
Mirrors with directional indicators
Handlebar
Handgrips
Steering damper

Fuel pump
Fuel filler cap
Inner damper (oil dynamics and inside components)
Rear swingarm
Rear turn signals
Taillight
Pressure die-cast rear taillight support
Rear wheel hub, either gravity die-cast, or forged
Many of these parts have been designed and crafted by MV Agusta, rather than sourced from market suppliers, thereby affording technical and aesthetic perfection



http://www.mvagustausa.com/web-mvagusta/10_BR_1090RR.html

[Triple J]

Handlebars, grips, turn signals, rear taillight support, etc. all advertised as new items!  OK

MV Agusta are the kings of trotting out last year's bike with a new paint job every year. I suspect this will be the same unfortunately.

Bummer...I'd like to see a new bike from them.

[spolic]

The only influence HD could have on that bike is if they added 85% more weight.

[teddy037.2]

"Using the knowledge gained from a winning tradition of racing excellence with 38 world championship titles and 37 manufacturers' championships alongside motorcycle icon Giacomo Agostini, MV Agusta focused on producing the most versatile Brutale to date,..."

are they winning these days in a series that I don't follow?

[Travman]

What are you afraid of?

I am skeptical that this is really a new model.  It looks and probably is really just more of the same.  I don't believe that 85% of the parts are new. 

I'm afraid that their models will follow the HD pattern of infrequent updates.  Don't get me wrong.  I think the Brutale is a awesome bike that looks even better in person.

[teddy037.2]

I am skeptical that this is really a new model.  It looks and probably is really just more of the same.  I don't believe that 85% of the parts are new. 

well, if you think about it, any change could make a part a 'new' part.... 1mm larger frame tubing, or different alloy, or different weight (or brand) of fork oil, or small tweaks to whatever can certainly be marketed as new

[mitt]

well, if you think about it, any change could make a part a 'new' part.... 1mm larger frame tubing, or different alloy, or different weight (or brand) of fork oil, or small tweaks to whatever can certainly be marketed as new

switching vendors from xyz to abc can be a new part even without changing the design...

mitt

[teddy037.2]

switching vendors from xyz to abc can be a new part even without changing the design...

mitt

that, too 

[Triple J]

"Using the knowledge gained from a winning tradition of racing excellence with 38 world championship titles and 37 manufacturers' championships alongside motorcycle icon Giacomo Agostini, MV Agusta focused on producing the most versatile Brutale to date,..."

are they winning these days in a series that I don't follow?

Apparently they won the 2008 Italian SBK Championship. No other actuall racing is mentioned though, other than a failed plan to join the 2008 WSBK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Agusta

[kopfjäger]

I am skeptical that this is really a new model.  It looks and probably is really just more of the same.  I don't believe that 85% of the parts are new. 

I'm afraid that their models will follow the HD pattern of infrequent updates.  Don't get me wrong.  I think the Brutale is a awesome bike that looks even better in person.

Are you looking to buy one?

[caperix]

Apparently they won the 2008 Italian SBK Championship. No other actuall racing is mentioned though, other than a failed plan to join the 2008 WSBK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MV_Agusta

They ran in AMA superbike last year with f4's not brutale's.  They did OK, I think it was Ferrachi that was running them.

[csp808]

OK? They blew up half the time