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Desmostro
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October 04, 2009, 02:38:21 PM »
o m g its being discussed.
artist, 1 point.
nauseated audience, 0
well good for him. The rape question seems like chicken/egg; or when is sperm life, or what eve.
What if someone says yesnoyesnoyesnoyes...? moments of rape? Seems like the vocabulary of this subject needs to be expanded a bit?
Not trying to make light of something horrible. Just the beaten-to-death discussion.
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Quote from: He Man on October 04, 2009, 02:29:21 PM
Prior to going in, if you knew that saying no is not an option, but you still go in, does it still make it rape?
Likewise, what if there was a suicide booth (as depicted in futurama). However, once you step into it, there is no turning back. the momment you step in, the doors automatically close and it kills you. Is it still suicide if you step in and have a change of heart and try to fight your way out?
NOw what would be funny is, if some sick girl goes in there with an anti rape condom. Would that be considered assault on her behalf?
No, that would be awesome
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I doubt this thing is real. the whole point is to make people talk about it.
but if it were, the anti rape condom would make things REALLY interesting.
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It could be real.
Or not.
I think I would go in. . .
and absolutely wreck this guy.
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what if he had a stun gun and stunned you, and drugged you and filmed you while he was butt nailing you?
id wear an antirape condom in my butt too.
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I'd just set the stupid tunnel on fire
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Thank you
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CAJUN STYLE!!! smoke em out...then rape him. good call.
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The tunnel is constructed in such a way that it gets smaller the closer you get to the project room. The bigger you are, the more difficult it is to comfortably crawl out.
And trust me, I have a lot of secrets up my sleeve to ensure that I can overpower anyone that comes through the tunnel.
People tempted to crawl in here should be very,
very
careful... he seems to have thought about this pretty obsessively.... and might have spent a LOT of time considering "how can I overpower and rape someone who is bigger/stronger/armed."
Hindsight is 20/20... not much comfort when you are taking your meals standing for a month.
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Wouldn't building this installation and announcing that you'll rape anyone who tries to enter be considered conspiracy? Or do you need two people to make a conspiracy charge stick?
At what point does it stop being art and crosses over into a crime? I noticed that his legal troubles were civil not criminal.
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It will be in Ohio on 30 Oct. Who's going?
http://www.artlurker.com/2009/09/the-rape-tunnel-by-sheila-zareno/
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Quote from: krolik on October 04, 2009, 04:39:51 PM
Wouldn't building this installation and announcing that you'll rape anyone who tries to enter be considered conspiracy? Or do you need two people to make a conspiracy charge stick?
I'm pretty sure you need at least two people for a conspiracy to exist.
Though perhaps you could consider the proprietor or the gallery to be a conspirator?
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Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on October 04, 2009, 03:22:19 PM
People tempted to crawl in here should be very,
very
careful... he seems to have thought about this pretty obsessively.... and might have spent a LOT of time considering "how can I overpower and rape someone who is bigger/stronger/armed."
Hindsight is 20/20... not much comfort when you are taking your meals standing for a month.
True, but he also acknowledges that he may not have a 100% success rate.
"First of all, I want to make it clear that I plan to make the experience as unpleasant as I possibly can to anyone who dares to crawl through the tunnel. I will try
to the best of my ability
to make them regret their decision."
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What if a police officer crawls through the tunnel?
Then I will probably go to jail. But before that
I’ll try my very best to sexually assault him or her.
The tunnel is constructed in such a way that it gets smaller the closer you get to the project room. The bigger you are, the more difficult it is to comfortably crawl out. And trust me, I have a lot of secrets up my sleeve to ensure that I can overpower anyone that comes through the tunnel."
Im sure he's thought about this a lot. But he's only one man.
What happens when 3 or 4 or 5 guys show up in there? I didn't see anything mentioning they were limiting it to one at a time.
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Quote from: Monsterlover on October 04, 2009, 05:34:20 PM
Im sure he's thought about this a lot. But he's only one man.
What happens when 3 or 4 or 5 guys show up in there? I didn't see anything mentioning they were limiting it to one at a time.
I don't want this degenerate into a 'how would
I
build a rape tunnel thread', but
(1) the tunnel narrows down, so the group would get strung out.
(2) narcoleptic gas can take out 6 people as easily as one.
Re; the art itself. Maybe the artist is specifically attempting to illicit responses from the audience.... (see poster above).
Also, think about this. You attend the opening. You stand before the tunnel. It is no longer a hypothetical situation, but a hard reality. Now I am pretty well built, can handle myself,... but would I have the balls to enter in the 'world' of what may well be a madman?
It is like every horror movie ever made: 'Oh, what is that strange sound. You guys stay here, I'll go check it out by myself." How often does
that
sort of decision making work out for the best?
Now maybe he is in there waiting for you with a flower, gives you a hug and says "Congratulations, you have faced and overcome your fears... you now know what it is to be truly human." Or maybe not. The only way you find out is if you go in that tunnel.
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he fell on my spoon officer.
he fell on it 75 times?
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