Oil pressure switch/oil temp. sensor locations

Started by Ducatl, October 05, 2009, 02:48:18 PM

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ducpainter

Quote from: Speeddog on October 06, 2009, 12:49:24 PM
There you go, the ultimate solution!  [beer]
Easier than trying to put a tapered thread in there without a lathe to center drill it. ;)
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Ducatl

Oh god though, a single model and a single year? that could take some time...

If I tried tapping mine I'd get somebody to machine it, I wouldn't just try with the drill press ;)

Gonna look for oil cooler line adapters first I think,

Thanks for all the help so far guys ;D

ducpainter

Quote from: Ducatl on October 06, 2009, 01:08:51 PM
Oh god though, a single model and a single year? that could take some time...

If I tried tapping mine I'd get somebody to machine it, I wouldn't just try with the drill press ;)

Gonna look for oil cooler line adapters first I think,

Thanks for all the help so far guys ;D
Earlier 750 SS models may well have that same bolt, as well as 900SS motors that had an oil temp gauge. The screen is the same. I believe they changed the design with the 800SS.

The pdf parts files are on Ducati.com for '00 up. You may very well expand the possibilities with some investigation.
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Ducatl

Interesting, I'll definitely do some poking around then and see what I can come up with/what it will cost to do it that way.

I just got off the phone with Summit Racing and it seems that using a T adapter on the lines is totally feasible and rather cheap, Still don't know the size for the line fittings though....annnnnyyyyyonnnne? ;D

I'm thinking this method may be a little easier for a few reasons...

-Shorter sensor line length since it's almost a straight shot down from the gauge to the cooler.
-Less clutter on the pretty side of the bike as I don't need to run any wire down the side.
-Trail tech doesn't offer any sensors with a right angle in the line so running it to the screen might not look very pretty.
-probably much cheaper than buying from Ducati or having to wait or look for used parts.

ducpainter

The fittings are AN 6 or AN 8...(I can never remember.)

One thing to consider is the screen is on the low pressure side of the oil circuit and a small leak is inconsequential compared to a small  high pressure leak from the cooler.

Your method will certainly work.
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Ducatl

Due to the lines being slightly larger than 1/2" I'm guessing they're -8 fittings, can anyone confirm?

Quote from: ducpainter on October 06, 2009, 01:39:15 PM

One thing to consider is the screen is on the low pressure side of the oil circuit and a small leak is inconsequential compared to a small  high pressure leak from the cooler.


Hm, that could be...interesting...I suppose that adding connections increases the chance of a leak...

ducpainter

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ducpainter

Quote from: Ducatl on October 06, 2009, 02:03:36 PM

Hm, that could be...interesting...I suppose that adding connections increases the chance of a leak...
Plus the cooler is somewhat 'delicate'.
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Ducatl

It is? it always feels pretty solid...What areas are weak?

I've got the parts needed for the cooler connection pretty much sorted out.  Trail tech offers really weird sizes for sensors so it's kind of a pain, I've been sorting through every AN hardware site I can come across trying to get it down to the minimum number of connections.  So far the lowest I can muster is 3 pieces, still not great.  This includes a female to male -8 connector with a 1/8 npt port in the middle, an npt to -6 AN adapter and a -6 AN adapter to metric.  The sensor must be like the one freaking size that makes it impossible to easily connect.  This also happens to be the cheapest solution so far.

Anyways, I'll keep looking...Something worthy will present itself eventually

ducpainter

Quote from: Ducatl on October 06, 2009, 04:45:42 PM
It is? it always feels pretty solid...What areas are weak?

I've got the parts needed for the cooler connection pretty much sorted out.  Trail tech offers really weird sizes for sensors so it's kind of a pain, I've been sorting through every AN hardware site I can come across trying to get it down to the minimum number of connections.  So far the lowest I can muster is 3 pieces, still not great.  This includes a female to male -8 connector with a 1/8 npt port in the middle, an npt to -6 AN adapter and a -6 AN adapter to metric.  The sensor must be like the one freaking size that makes it impossible to easily connect.  This also happens to be the cheapest solution so far.

Anyways, I'll keep looking...Something worthy will present itself eventually

Just be careful of the AN  nipple to cooler connection.

This looks like what you need...

http://tinyurl.com/ydx5boq
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Speeddog

Quote from: ducpainter on October 06, 2009, 05:12:59 PM
Just be careful of the AN  nipple to cooler connection.

This looks like what you need...

http://tinyurl.com/ydx5boq

Delicate is the correct term, IMO.
With *any* of the Duc coolers, make sure you've got a wrench on the cooler side of the fitting/elbow.
If you just have a wrench on the hose fitting and react the torque on the cooler, you run a good chance of injuring the cooler.

And for doing what you've planned, I'd be all over that link.
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Quote from: Speeddog on October 06, 2009, 06:20:52 PM


And for doing what you've planned, I'd be all over that link.

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ducpainter

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Speeddog

Just to be clear, I've no interest in that part.

But for the OP, it's the best solution IMO.
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