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Author Topic: Hand warmers/ Heated grips  (Read 7079 times)
eastview
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« on: October 07, 2009, 07:21:14 AM »

OK folks, I need some help. My GF is upset that my BMW has heated grips and her 696 doesn't. Has anyone out there added them? THKS
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2009, 07:35:28 AM »

Here ya go...heated grips for <$40.

http://www.dual-star.com/index2/Rider/heated_grip_kit.htm

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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2009, 07:47:15 AM »

You don't have to add them permanently. Aerostich offers grip wraps.

http://www.aerostich.com/a-to-b-utilities/heated-grips-accessories
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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2009, 08:12:50 AM »

grip warmers are very fat, they feel awkard, but if your okay with them, then its not that big of a deal. I dont think your GF has large hands like most women ,so its probably out of the question.

I have the dualstar heated grips..eh. your finger gets cold and the back of your hands get cold. If you are going to get heated grips, youll need a glove that has a thin layer on the palm to absorb that heat, and a handguards to block the wind.

If you dont mind it, id go with heated gloves instead.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2009, 08:51:09 AM »

I have the dualstar heated grips..eh. your finger gets cold and the back of your hands get cold. If you are going to get heated grips, youll need a glove that has a thin layer on the palm to absorb that heat, and a handguards to block the wind.

If you dont mind it, id go with heated gloves instead.

That's only if you're riding in really cold temps. You can ride comfortably with heated grips into the low-mid 40s in my experience. Olympia also makes a nice pair of gloves that have thinsulate on the backside of the hands, and normal weight leather on the palms...perfect for heated grips. Handguards are nice, but not required with good gloves. Below about 40 though and it's tough to keep your hands warm with grips...below 30 damn near impossible.

The issue I've heard with heated gloves is the clutch one tends to wear out quickly...probably due to the repeated motion of operating the clutch causing the wires to eventually break. Ask Knight...I believe he's gone through quite a few pairs of heated gloves.
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« Reply #5 on: October 07, 2009, 04:33:07 PM »

That's only if you're riding in really cold temps. You can ride comfortably with heated grips into the low-mid 40s in my experience. Olympia also makes a nice pair of gloves that have thinsulate on the backside of the hands, and normal weight leather on the palms...perfect for heated grips. Handguards are nice, but not required with good gloves. Below about 40 though and it's tough to keep your hands warm with grips...below 30 damn near impossible.

The issue I've heard with heated gloves is the clutch one tends to wear out quickly...probably due to the repeated motion of operating the clutch causing the wires to eventually break. Ask Knight...I believe he's gone through quite a few pairs of heated gloves.

your right about the 40 degree thing. My experience in 40s is fine with just gloves and heater on low. I rode last year down to the mid 20s and my hands just couldnt take it with gloves and heat grips, you HAD to have handguards at that point and even then ,your fingers got cold REALLY fast.

This year, i am looking to go down to the teens, ~5-10 degrees. Evil. My heated grips broke after 2 seasons. probably cause i was running them on high all the time in 20 degree weather. If you are going to order dual stars order them NOW. they always have a huge waiting list as you get closer to the cold weather.

For this winter im rocking the Scorpion XDR Shock and Awe line up with Oakley Snow Boots. 
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« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2009, 05:31:42 PM »

This year, i am looking to go down to the teens, ~5-10 degrees. Evil.

You're crazy! The coldest I've ever ridden was about 20 degrees a couple winters ago for about a 1 week stretch (usually doesn't get that cold here). It was miserable...even with a heated jacket. My torso, feet, and legs were fine...but my face (even in full face helmet) and hands (with handguards) were miserable. Add to that the fact that I had to really watch for ice on the road...no thanks!  Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2009, 04:48:20 AM »

Thanks for the replies. Yes she does have small hands but we have not been able to find heated gloves she likes. Very picky about gloves(current Rev'its). As far as hand guards go, we don't ride in that cold of conditions and I never go above low on mine without hand guards.(BMW K1200S). Its more for first thing in the morning or on the way home in the evening. For those who have heated grips are you OK with the Hi/Lo switch or did you go with a controller? Also do you switch to after market grips? If so what brand ? THKS...
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« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2009, 05:23:57 AM »

I have run Dualstars on my Monster for 4 years, and just installed a set of Oxford HotGrips on my ST3 last winter.  Between the 2 I'd recommend the Oxfords.

They come complete with a variable heat controller (4 different settings) rather than the Hi/Lo Dualstar swtich (optional variable controller, though for a bit more $) and the grips are balanced right/left perfecty when on. With the Dualstars, you'll need to insulate the 2 grips equally or you'll lose plenty of heat directly thruogh the aluminum bar on the clutch side making them uneven at temp. I tried to insulate the heater pad from the aluminum bar using hockey tape as per instructions but they're not even close. Quite irritating really when one side is blisteringly hot and the other is on moderately warm.

The Oxfords run directly off the battery, but when a low-amperage is detected by the Oxford system (like if you shut your bike off and forget to turn off the heated grips) the system shuts the heater off so your battery isn't run down. The Dualstars will need to either be patched into your bike's harness so they'll run only with the ignition "on", or run directly off the battery (with no auto-shutoff - potential for draining the battery).

The only issue you may have given that your girlfriend has smaller hands is that the Oxfords are of a larger diameter than the stock grips. I preferred this for myself and have no problem with them. She may not be comfortable with them.

If in the end you opt for the Dualstars try fitting an aftermarket gel pad grip for comfort. Pro Grips sells gel grips for $15 - they feel really nice and will take some of the buzz out of the bars.
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« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2009, 06:25:21 AM »

I run Pro Grips like Markus said.

The Hi/Low switch set-up is fine for me, but Markus is also spot on about the temp difference. I find my self toggling between low and high a lot, as high can get too hot, and low not hot enough. A variable controller would be better.

The clutch side tends to lose heat into the bar since it doesn't have the plastic throttle tube under the grip. You need to insulate the bar before installing the grip...but easier said than done to get something really effective. I just use electrical tape...and it works "OK".

The Oxfords actually sound better...I'll have to look into them.  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2009, 07:16:35 AM »


The Oxfords actually sound better...I'll have to look into them.  Smiley

It's tough to ignore the inexpensive $35 Dualstars - they're great value for the money. But add a set of replacement grips ($15) and the optional variable heat dial ($50-60) you start getting close to the price of the Oxford HotGrips ($140).

The Oxfords also seem to be a more robust kit with heavier weatherproof wiring that doesn't require any heatshrink or splicing to do a neat install.
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« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2009, 07:39:35 AM »

It's tough to ignore the inexpensive $35 Dualstars - they're great value for the money. But add a set of replacement grips ($15) and the optional variable heat dial ($50-60) you start getting close to the price of the Oxford HotGrips ($140).


You have a link to anyone that sells them on-line?
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2009, 07:48:34 AM »

You have a link to anyone that sells them on-line?
Sure thing Triple J:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hot-Oxford-Heated-Grips-Heaterz-Epoxy-controller-7-8_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53dd00a58dQQitemZ360190092685QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

BTW you Americans have to so good.... I just found the kit I paid $140CDN for on eBay USA for $70US. Lucky...
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2009, 08:13:01 AM »

Sure thing Triple J:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Hot-Oxford-Heated-Grips-Heaterz-Epoxy-controller-7-8_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem53dd00a58dQQitemZ360190092685QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

BTW you Americans have to so good.... I just found the kit I paid $140CDN for on eBay USA for $70US. Lucky...

Thanks!  waytogo I saw the ebay link when I googled it...but I usually skip ebay. Guess I'll have to get over that.  Smiley
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2009, 08:42:10 AM »

Thanks!  waytogo I saw the ebay link when I googled it...but I usually skip ebay. Guess I'll have to get over that.  Smiley

No problem. Can't vouch for the vendor but the price is right.
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