M695 power increase

[somegirl]

Unless you want Termi's because they are Termi's, you can probably find another brand that will give you more umph, less weight, and better sound for less $. 

or because the Termis come with the upgraded ECU.

[Raux]

the critical component of the termi system that makes the termi so desireable to me is the new ECU. the rest is just another exhaust and a hiflow filter.

[Scottish]

From personal experience I can say that the full Termi system totally wakes the bike up, night and day. I was a little disappointed with the power of the 695 when I first climbed aboard. Don't get me wrong, I still enjoyed the experience and grinned like an idiot during the entire experience. After the full Termi upgrade though I was thuroughly pleased. I went from this  to this  I would recommend this to anyone, but the full system, just the exhaust and open airbox are weak sauce. The ECU is prolly the most valuable part of the system.

[Kopfjäger]

^^ If you think that ECU is tuneable, look into Microtec.

[BK_856er]

the critical component of the termi system that makes the termi so desireable to me is the new ECU. the rest is just another exhaust and a hiflow filter.

Exactly.  I did mine in the order ECU --> pipes --> filter/lid with some riding time between each step (long story).  The pipes and filter did very little, but the open airbox afforded a mean induction growl rolling on the throttle.  The special ducati "off-road" ecu is the key item.  A true adjustable ecu, and a tuner who knows how to make it right, must be even sweeter.  More power is great, but smoothing out what's already there and improving the throttle responsive also brings smiles.

BK

[WetDuc]

1198 would be a serious power upgrade.

It would be nothing short of amazing.

I agree, the ECU is the key item in the kit.  I don't know if I would want to mismatch ECU, filter and pipes just to save a few bucks...

[redial]

[psycledelic]

or because the Termis come with the upgraded ECU.

the critical component of the termi system that makes the termi so desireable to me is the new ECU. the rest is just another exhaust and a hiflow filter

I agree that the ECU is the selling point for the Termi's.  But from what iamhybris said below:

I'm not looking to make the bike something it's not in terms of power.  I think I mainly just want it to kick as hard as it can and be loud.  Termi kit is expensive...that's going to happen eventually and I'm going to slap on the 14T at the same time...and then go plummet myself into debt on a new 1198S.

I was saying that  that there were other, less expensive options out there that might give him what he was wanting.
Kind of back to the point I was making in my original post.  If you are wanting a more powerful bike, is your money better spent on trying to squeezing HP out of a weaker bike, or taking that money and putting it into a stronger one?   
The desicion  to make would be do you want a custom ride, or do you just want to go faster.   
Talks of full Termi's, Carbon wheels, and bore kits have to be getting near 70% of the price of the entry level monsters off of the show room floor.  Granted, it would be one VERY cool bike.

[WetDuc]

I mean, how much really do the CF wheels make the bike feel more powerful?  Is it even more noticeable than the exhaust/sprocket changes?  3 grand for wheels makes me cringe, I don't think I could do it, but it does make me drool when I see it.

I want my 695 to have more power, and I'm going to try the 14T sprocket and Termi kit, but that will probably be everything in terms of trying to get more power.  Most all other mods will be cosmetic other than the steering damper for safety.

[teddy037.2]

I mean, how much really do the CF wheels make the bike feel more powerful?  Is it even more noticeable than the exhaust/sprocket changes?  3 grand for wheels makes me cringe, I don't think I could do it, but it does make me drool when I see it.

I want my 695 to have more power, and I'm going to try the 14T sprocket and Termi kit, but that will probably be everything in terms of trying to get more power.  Most all other mods will be cosmetic other than the steering damper for safety.

less rotating mass= quicker acceleration, braking, easier turn-in due to reduced gyroscopic effect

it is largely accepted as the best thing you can do to any sport bike


the DP termi kit will be good, since it covers intake, exhaust, and fuelling... so that pretty much covers the 'more power' side of it

[caperix]

I mean, how much really do the CF wheels make the bike feel more powerful?  Is it even more noticeable than the exhaust/sprocket changes?  3 grand for wheels makes me cringe, I don't think I could do it, but it does make me drool when I see it.

I want my 695 to have more power, and I'm going to try the 14T sprocket and Termi kit, but that will probably be everything in terms of trying to get more power.  Most all other mods will be cosmetic other than the steering damper for safety.

Usually every 1 pound saved at wheel speed is equal in accelloration terms to taking 3 pounds off the bike.  The 3 spokes do weight alot, 11.5 lbs front, 13 lbs rear if my info is correct.  3K for BST's is alot of money to spend, an intermediate step may be to buy some used 5 spokes.  The front is easy to find, the rear tends to take some looking as not many DSSA bikes used them.  The regear will do the most in making the bike "feel" more powerful, but light wheels will make the bike corner and brake better also.

[WetDuc]

I just can't imagine spending so much on wheels for my 695.  Maybe on a superbike.  The Termi kit sounds like so much fun, can't wait to get it.

I just took off my emissions canister and it actually made the power delivery smoother and maybe even feels more powerful.  For sure it is louder and starts up with less hesitation.

It was so weird, I went out for the test ride after removing the canister and pulled up at the stoplight next to a black and gold 620, then on the way back home passed by a 695 (with Termi's, I was jealous)!  That's seeing more fellow Duc's in one five minute trip than I usually see in three months of daily commuting.

It's been a good afternoon, time for a  .  I fell in love with the 695 again today, I could never bear to part with it.  I don't want to expect more power out of it than it can safely (and financially reasonably) put out.  For that kind of power, I'm getting into a superbike (one day).

[psycledelic]

I think it was StopInTime that really made a good point in another thread about getting more from your bike by really learning how to ride it.  I tell myself that I would like a bigger bike, but I have yet to even come close to the potential of my 800 in the mountains.   I would dare say that some of the best and most cost effective performance upgrades would be the advanced skills clinics and track days. 

[teddy037.2]

I think it was StopInTime that really made a good point in another thread about getting more from your bike by really learning how to ride it.  I tell myself that I would like a bigger bike, but I have yet to even come close to the potential of my 800 in the mountains.   I would dare say that some of the best and most cost effective performance upgrades would be the advanced skills clinics and track days. 

true, but for those of us who don't have track days or schools as an option, all that's left is to throw money at the bike 

[stopintime]

true, but for those of us who don't have track days or schools as an option, all that's left is to throw money at the bike 

Not that there is anything wrong with that