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« Reply #15 on: October 12, 2009, 11:50:45 AM »

Best bang for the buck is a lighter set of wheels.
Okay DMF parts experts
If I go for  a lighter wheelset
what wheels off which bikes will fit the 695?(other than carbon as too $$$$ for me)
Does it have to be Ducati specific?
Should I use the same rotors or are there lighter options.
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« Reply #16 on: October 12, 2009, 01:03:04 PM »

IMO, there isn't enough weight savings to justify the cost. The thousands of dollars are better spend/saved for whenever you upgrade to a more powerful bike.

It's exciting to dream about an even more powerful bike, but your bike does 0-100 km/h in about 4-5 seconds and top speed should be around 200 km/h. I think improved rider's skills and experience will take you the to the next level, not the few extra horsepowers.

Tried raising the rear? Track days?
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« Reply #17 on: October 12, 2009, 06:36:19 PM »



Tried raising the rear? Track days?
Definitely raised the rear AND lower the triples on the forks, suspension would be the best up grade for the here and now, the rear shock especially is insuffiecnt for my weight and wallows even with the preload cranked all the way up. Honestly the groups I've ridden with I have no problem being towards the front of the pack in the twisties. On the straights though the 1098's and the rest of them just blow me out of the water.

Honestly I'm a father now and don't need a bike that'll do 150mph, but I wouldn't mind a little more on tap and as a new bike is out of the question, mods are what I can do. A little here and a little there is right up my alley. I built my bike out of a parts bin so I'm not intimidated to get into it. So labor cost isn't an issue.

Track days are in my future, I find myself less and less willing to ride at level that I enjoy on the street and have hauled back substancially. I'm even considering just turning my bike into a track slut and taking it off the street entirely.
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« Reply #18 on: October 12, 2009, 08:50:17 PM »

there's a thread that talks about 696 wheel upgrades. they all should be available for the 695.
i'm lazy this morning so you'll have to search.
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« Reply #19 on: October 12, 2009, 08:51:05 PM »

See my situation is that I own my current bike, if I go bike shopping I might convince myself that I can afford a payment. I also have done so much to my bike to personalize it that I don't want to step out of it, I can easily afford a big bore or an engine swap, I am not convinced I can afford the bike I would walk out of a dealer with... For these reasons I am considering a kit for my 620, not looking for a big gain and not looking to sell it anytime soon, just small bit more power would be nice.
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« Reply #20 on: October 13, 2009, 01:43:28 AM »

the OP did mention the bike is completely sorted out with the suspension work and all mods to his liking.
adding more power to change the responsiveness of a bike he already loves does sound like a good investment.
but i'm biased.  doing all this work on my bike also.

Wow.  After re-reading my original post, I may have come off a little harsh.  Sorry.  I will blame it on 3rd shift and some really potent coffee. 
 
Yeh good point pyscledelic
The bike is still under factory warranty which probably would be voided and only getting it up to an 800 is not enough of a increase with what sounds like a substantial $$ investment hmmm!!!
time to re think maybe a second bike or a trade in is the solution.
Will a lighter wheel set really make a noticeable difference ? even that is not a cheap option.
Now how long untill there are streetfighters going second hand  laughingdp
Thanks for the input DMF's

Dez, I think you got my point though.  I was in no way whatsoever trying to discourage you from making that 695 rock and roll.  I just wanted to bring the practical side to the table and make sure that you weighed all of your options before you dropped oodles of cash into your bike to jack up the power and wasn't completely satisfied with the outcome. 
+1 on the 2nd hand Streetfighter.  That bike in black would look so good parked next to my little Monster!
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« Reply #21 on: October 13, 2009, 07:36:11 AM »

What kind of power increase should one expect from the Termi kit?
Does dropping the tooth to the 14T front sprocket make the bike feel more powerful but really hurt the top end?

I have a 695 and am pretty curious about these two performance mods.
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« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2009, 08:22:21 AM »

What kind of power increase should one expect from the Termi kit?

Here's my review of the kit:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=1819.0

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« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2009, 09:48:31 AM »

What kind of power increase should one expect from the Termi kit?
Does dropping the tooth to the 14T front sprocket make the bike feel more powerful but really hurt the top end?

I have a 695 and am pretty curious about these two performance mods.

I think the consensus is that top end does not suffer. Smaller bikes aren't powerful enough to fight wind resistance in order to max out revs in sixth gear.
With a 14T the engine revs about 7% higher at all times - personal preference if that suits you, highway/city.

Combined, the Termi kit and 14T is very noticeable, not to mention the sound. For me though, it would not be worth the cost if I didn't also get the concerto. YMMV
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« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2009, 10:20:57 AM »

maxing out a bike unless you are on the track or in europe shouldn't be an issue for most stateside riders. getting the 14t front or even going up 3 in the back is a good way  to FEEL more power down low and in the useable range. you'll be running about 500rpm more at the typical cruising speeds but your fuel economy shouldn't suffer but a bit.

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« Reply #25 on: October 13, 2009, 09:07:42 PM »

maxing out a bike unless you are on the track or in europe shouldn't be an issue for most stateside riders. getting the 14t front or even going up 3 in the back is a good way  to FEEL more power down low and in the useable range. you'll be running about 500rpm more at the typical cruising speeds but your fuel economy shouldn't suffer but a bit.

I changed my M695 gearing (initially to 14/42, and later to the equivalent 15/45) with good results.  Nice little boost and good bang for the buck.  Termi kit was another nice little boost, along with some decent weight savings.  Now it scoots pretty good and I don't think it lacks anything on the top end, at least for the street - pulls through all the gears nicely.  I sometimes wish it had the bottomless reservoir of get up and go that my SBK has, but it's a different bike and I accept that it needs to be ridden a bit differently.  I'm thinking of doing the lightened flywheel soon while it's under the knife for the 15k mile service.  The little monsters are great fun!

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« Reply #26 on: October 13, 2009, 10:15:33 PM »

BK_856er, where did you source the adjustable forks from?
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« Reply #27 on: October 13, 2009, 10:32:36 PM »

BK_856er, where did you source the adjustable forks from?

Forks are Matris cartridge type with external preload/rebound/compression and correct spring rate.  Works great and makes a big difference on the M695.  I don't think they are currently available in the US, but you can get them from Italy.  I documented the conversion somewhere around here...

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« Reply #28 on: October 14, 2009, 03:01:32 AM »

I'm not looking to make the bike something it's not in terms of power.  I think I mainly just want it to kick as hard as it can and be loud.  Termi kit is expensive...that's going to happen eventually and I'm going to slap on the 14T at the same time...and then go plummet myself into debt on a new 1198S. bow down Roll Eyes
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« Reply #29 on: October 14, 2009, 01:02:35 PM »

I'm not looking to make the bike something it's not in terms of power.  I think I mainly just want it to kick as hard as it can and be loud.  Termi kit is expensive...that's going to happen eventually and I'm going to slap on the 14T at the same time...and then go plummet myself into debt on a new 1198S. bow down Roll Eyes

Unless you want Termi's because they are Termi's, you can probably find another brand that will give you more umph, less weight, and better sound for less $. 
As far as the gearing, when I first went with the 14t front sprocket, I didn't really experience the awe-inspiring kick off of the line that I was expecting from reading other post and conversations at the shop.  I think I was just anticipating to much.  It did make the bike more rideable in town.  I am now running the 14t in the front and one up in the back.  I like it even more. 
1198 would be a serious power upgrade.
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