"That Rego Tube is not Legal Sir"

[dragonworld.]

Understand where your coming from Ita!! 

Some Plods seem to just have a power trip happening and they seem to head for a career in the TOG, now TMU or whatever they call themselves this week.

Just about all the cops I know reckon that they get a fat chasing people and love to flex their "authoritaa" and cause more grief than good!! 

A uniform guy I knew (Long termer in the job) said that a Cop he trained and did an assessment on (he reckoned was an incompetent, and stated such in his report) got into TOG and made Seargent within 12 months, apparently a real useless gogetter with PR skills of Attila the Hun. 

Go Figure!! 

[Ita]

Understand where your coming from Ita!! 
Go Figure!! 

Yes mate...  Go figure, sad but true.

I like to think most have good intentions, but I hear so many horror stories I just wonder

Ita

[CairnsDuc]

One of the woman my Wife works with, she is married to a Cop, decent sort of guy, just does regular duties, as part of his first 12 months he had to work in Traffic branch for 6 weeks, He told me he hated it, some grossly over inflated egos, constant power trips and the majority of the guys in traffic branch reckon they are better than the rest of the guys on the Force.

He could not wait to get out, he said that just about every guy in the main Police station up here hate the Traffic branch guys.

Or to use his exact words "Bunch of Arrogant Twats"

[Two dogs]

Wow sounds like I have been lucky up here on the Nth Beaches
Every cop who has pulled me over(usually RBT) has been polite and nice
even when asking for a licence on seeing me carrying it in my backpack
have said "don't worry mate off you go".
Even had a radar cop( his motorcycle parked behind him) on tracking me on the radar
doing an enthusiastic version of 60 Ks
drop his gun to his side and give me a nod.

[fffracing]

This rego thing is another great reason (one of millions) why we don't need state governments.

The six states an 2 territories can't agree on anything, let alone the very important area of licensing and road rules.

The NT has a brilliant idea for rego labels on trailers and bikes. The rego plate has a small area on the side of the plate. The rego sticker is a small water proof, reflective sticker which has a hole puched in it to indicate when the rego expires. No holders, no bullshit and the cops can see if your rego is payed up by simply looking at the rego plate. Pretty simple, and this has been in place in the NT for over 20 years.

When I moved to Cairns I counidn't believe the "smart state" is still using these antiquated rego labels. It is even worse on my dirt bike, which I don't ride on the road but has to be registered. The rego sticker is a total pain, always cracking, failing off and of course getting wet. Then the cops peg you for a rego label they can't read. They could have read it 6 hours ago before the 10 creek crossings I went through. But they home in on trail bike riders in particular areas after they have been riding all day and the bikes have copped a hiding. Then you throw the bike in the ute for the drive home and have to endure a multitude of morons who can't drive and not a cop to be seen.

As we all know there is an imbalance of treatment. 

Cheers

[dragonworld.]

As with a lot of things motorcycle in regards to the Authorities its all "Mind over Matter"!!

They dont bloody well mind, and we dont friggin well matter!! 

In Victoria for the first time ever, motorcycles and motorcyclists have been included in the Transport Plan for the Future!!

In the past they have included, skateboards/ers, pushies etc but never, ever before motorcycles/ists. Typical aint it?? 

[Spider]

In the past they have included,  skateboards/ers, pushies etc but never, ever before motorcycles/ists. Typical aint it?? 

that's cause we cool! 

[dragonworld.]

Ohmygawd a SKEG!! 

[dragonworld.]

And in LYCRA I'll bet?? 

[CairnsDuc]

Again I watched the stupidity of our local Police force in action yesterday, between my place and the 10k run to the outskirts of the city, 1 hand held Radar, one unmarked car (had someone pulled over) and the Speed Camera van, all on perfectly flat straight pieces of road, where being a few k's over will not hurt anyone.

With so many people dying on our Roads, when will The general public wake up to the fact that this incessant focus on Speed enforcement is NOT saving lives?!?!?

There are letters in the paper how if we all just slow down we will have less accidents, people now deliberately drive below the limits to block and slow down other people, everyone has slowed down, they have lowered speed limits all over the region, put "traffic calming" road pimples in everywhere, put the Speed Nazis out all over the region claiming they are lowering the road toll.....
(For Christ sake, there's enough Radar being fired around to give you a suntan!)

And yet, the road Toll in the Northern region of Queensland is the highest it has ever been!!!
We have drivers talking on phones, no one gets fined!
We have unsafe/untrained drivers, no one gets fined, or better yet, proper driver training.
We have unsafe/unroadworthy vehicles everywhere, no one gets fined and the vehicles are not removed from the roads!
We have badly designed intersections, well known blackspots and family killers, never get fixed!

And where are the Cops and Politicians?
Well, the Cops are standing on perfectly good straight pieces of road pinging people for being a few k's over the limit.
And the Politicians are in there Ivory towers counting all there revenue from the Cops.
This State is run by a bunch of make the beast with two backswits, and I hate to to say this, but I can't wait to leave it.

(Steps down from the soap box)

[duk93]

A good reference for law related queries is a web site called Austli. It has all Australian law/regs listed. Can be a bit confusing but is a very good resource.

For the record, i have a rego tube fitted to my bike. Being a member of the Constabulary, i see it as the best option for displaying rego stickers. Common sense and Law dont always meet in the middle.

I will make some inquiries and try to settle it for the NSW guys and gals re whats acceptable. remember, there are good plumbers and there are plumbers that couldnt turn a garden hose on. Same goes for cops.

duk93

[duk93]

ok. should have done this prior to my last post. remember, most law related guff is about interpretation.

In a nut shell. This regulation in relation to the display of rego labels does not specify what 'brand' or 'type' of display device is to be used. All the regulation states is Section 3 (c) it must be on the left side ot the rego plate and not obscure the numbers. Section 4 states it must be visible from the outside of the vehicle.

I say go nuts. lets find new and exciting ways of displaying rego labels.

duk93
 
ROAD TRANSPORT (VEHICLE REGISTRATION) REGULATION 2007 - REG 16
Registration labels

    (3) A registration label must be affixed:

        (a) in the case of a motor vehicle fitted with a windscreen or fixed windows:

            (i) to the lower left (or near side) portion of the front windscreen, or

            (ii) to any fixed window on the left (or near) side of the vehicle, and

        (b) in the case of a caravan or other trailer:

            (i) on or adjacent to the vehicle’s number-plate in such a manner that the characters on the number-plate are not obscured, or

            (ii) if the vehicle has a fixed rear window or a hinged rear window that is to be closed when the caravan or other trailer is being towed-to that window, in a location as close as possible to the vehicle’s number-plate, and

        (c) in any other case-on or adjacent to the vehicle’s rear number-plate in such a manner that the characters on the number-plate are not obscured.

    (4) Despite subclause (3), the registration label must be affixed so that the information on the label is readable from the outside of the vehicle.

[Jukie]

welcome back Duk93, good to have the info.

[brimo]

TUBULAR REGO HOLDER LATEST

From the DOCQ website.

quote
" The latest word on the legality or otherwise of tubular rego sticker holders came up at the last MRAQ meeting. It appears that Queensland Transport has made a "ruling" against them. There doesn't seem to be any solid reasoning apart from a degree of doubt about whether they display the required info at the required distance, so of course when in doubt, just ban it. However it also seems that no specific directions have been passed down the line so it's become a "grey issue" for police to pursue at their discretion. This means that if you have one fitted you are "technically illegal" but at the mercy of the individual police officer. It's reported for example that Indooroopilly police (whose beat also takes in Mt. Glorious) will book you every time whereas police from another precinct will ignore them and others just issue a friendly warning. In other words it's a bit of a crap shoot...you may get away with it or you may not, but if push comes to shove the "law" is on the side of the police. " end quote

[loony888]

the indooroopilly traffic branch are notorious for being the biggest bunch of egotistical, narcissistic arseholes in se qld. and usually, the bike cops are the exception to the rule, but the indooroopilly plod are all tarred with the same brush i'm afraid.