"That Rego Tube is not Legal Sir"

[Betty]

Interesting that this should pop up again and be tied to 'enthusiastic' policing.

During our little run on Saturday (which unfortunately was not completely without incident) another rider was pinged by the coppers for a rego label holder which was slightly obscuring his numberplate ... don't know what he had been up to just before that. Luckily the gathering of Monsters in the carpark escaped attention with more than their fair share of tubies ... mind you I haven't seen anything that indicates they are illegal in NSW.

On a related note ... the rego (and consequently tube holder) was checked by the road block officers during Turismo and was stated as 'checked out OK'.

[signora monster]

[Q777]

...so I guess living about 2 minutes from the Indooroopilly Police Station was perhaps not my best choice of location then...

I stuck my label directly onto the screen, with it off to the left just enough to satisfy requirements.  One less thing to bolt on, and no label holder = less weight 

[MonsterDorf]

Luckily I haven't had any problems (knock on wood) but should I be fined and given the "ruling" can I still challenge in court? I would assume any "ruling" needs to be validated by the courts to be legally binding?

Was thinking about what to study next............maybe I should denounce all contact with the human race and study law?

[Two dogs]

After seeing the shenanagans with the  regarding motorcycle rego  on Saturdays ride I emailed the RTA
asking "Are rego tube's legal in N.S.W. on a motorcycle. "
This was there response
Dear Dezmonster
Thankyou for your email
Regarding the use of cylindrical registration label holders:
It is required by law that the registration label of a motorcycle be affixed on or adjacent to the vehicle's rear number plate without obscuring the vehicle's number plate characters;and the registration label must be affixed so that the information on the label is readable.
Registration label holders that meet that requirements are acceptable.
Regards
Rosemary
RTA
from the horses mouth so next time Mr plod wants to write you up quote the RTA

[Dannog]

Thats good news. Rosemary response didnt say it had to be on the LHS. I have mine on the exhaust hanger as it easy to see and attach there. Cylinder type of coarse. NB this is the third one I've had now as they keep getting nicked. Downside is that when they pinch them my pipes are flapping in the breeze... On the bright side - at least I know the rego labels gone. 

[goldFiSh]

I lost mine on the putty somewhere - took about 9 months of researching a replacement, only for me to find the original "trailer type" in the garage and affix that.... Might have to replace it with another tube (finally!)

[Serious Groper]

It is required by law that the registration label of a motorcycle be affixed on or adjacent to the vehicle's rear number plate

Are you sure that is correct?

I was pulled over by a gentleman in blue 2 weeks ago who wanted to discuss my lack of rego label (i had the interim label still on...after 11 months <long story as to why>).

He told me i didn't need to stick the rego label at the back, i could mount it anywhere i liked providing it was visible. He suggested putting it on the front screen to keep the back tidy (just like Q777 has).

As i am getting my rego done today, i am considering just putting it on the screen and being done with it. Less hassle.

[ungeheuer]

....Was thinking about what to study next............maybe I should denounce all contact with the human race and study law?

My rego label lives in the standard issue shitty semi-clear plastic holder much loved by the regulating authorities. Its attached to the left side of my bike by a hideous black cable-tie.  It sometimes gets caught up completely out of sight under the seat however, but easily redeployed once the...um.... mistake is noticed.  Gotta fix that.

And anyway, since  already knows details such as "who is the registered owner of the vehicle" before he/she asks these loaded questions, presumably the vehicle's rego-validity status is also recorded and stored in a similar database.  So it beats me why in this Brave New World we even need an archaic sticky label to confirm what they already know...... 

[Two dogs]

Are you sure that is correct?

I was pulled over by a gentleman in blue 2 weeks ago who wanted to discuss my lack of rego label (i had the interim label still on...after 11 months <long story as to why>).

He told me i didn't need to stick the rego label at the back, i could mount it anywhere i liked providing it was visible. He suggested putting it on the front screen to keep the back tidy (just like Q777 has).

As i am getting my rego done today, i am considering just putting it on the screen and being done with it. Less hassle.

That is a direct copy of the email I received from the RTA

But It really is in the hands of Mr P Lod  at the end of the day as he is the one writing your ticket
Then the onus is on you to challenge his ruling or not through the court.
Same as the old lane splitting thing some cops don't like it and will book you
others don't even bat an eye lid.
I am still waiting back on a response from RTA on that very subject.

[Serious Groper]

Sorry Dez, that sounded like i was questioning you (i did'nt mean it that way). I was meaning was the RTA lady sure about her response.

This is what i hate about laws that are left to 'interpretation'. You can interpret correctly or incorrectly. Why do our laws allow an incorrect interpretation? They should be black & white. Put a minimum size diameter to meet the display requirements and problem solved.

This is one reason why i am worried about doing the tail chop. All it takes is one upset  to defect me and ruin the fun. How i'd get the tail back to stock if that event happened i have no idea Does anyone know someone who has been defected for a tail chop?

[ozducati]

a mate of mine puts his on the front fork leg, just below the top triple clamps, can face in or out, but can be seen ok

[Two dogs]

No offence taken Mr Grope
Yes as this was a response from someone called "Rosemary .........?" at RTA  I
cant tell if she is maybe the work experience girl or the CEO so no attention to detail
about the left hand side of vehicle , which I was under the impression was okay.
I have moved mine to under the number plate just to dot and cross the apparent RTA /
requirements .
I have not been shown the slightest bit of interest by  in the tail chop but have kept the removed
offending piece of frame
just in case which can quite easily be re attached temporally or permanently(see main board) if a defect was thrown my way.
Go on chop away (unless your cans are going to hang out the back too far like a set of dog's 00)

[Jukie]

this is straight from the RTA Website

Where on my vehicle should I stick the rego label?

The label should be stuck on the inside of the lower-left portion of the front windscreen or on a fixed glass panel on the left-hand side of your vehicle.

For caravans and other trailers with a rear facing window, the label may be stuck on the inside of that window in a position as close as possible to the number plate. Hinged windows displaying a rego label must be closed while the vehicle is being towed.

For any other vehicles, the label should be affixed on or adjacent to the vehicle's rear number plate without obscuring the vehicle's number plate characters.

Suitable label holders may be purchased from most automotive retail suppliers.

this just depend i guess what Motorcycle is classes as, whether it is a Vehicle or Other Vehicle

[wrxmy99]

Chiming in...a mate (some of you would have met him on the VFR during my infamous 1st OzMo ride) was just pinged for a rego tube.

He was riding his (recently upgraded to) 100% showroom stock CBR1100XX at or below the speed limit in a line of traffic along the M5 this morn through a roadworks section.   car was 4-5 cars in FRONT of him.   puts his lights on, pulls into the breakdown lane and slows, then pulls out behind my mate and throws his lights on again.

Mate pulls over and gets done for incorrect display of rego label. (he has in mounted in a tube directly under his rego plate.  Nothing is obscured)  Aside from questioning the   on how this was an offence he also asked him how he knew this from 4 cars ahead of him.   said he had booked half a dozen bikes this morning and was checking every bike he saw.

No doubt a letter will be written but be warned all, seems they're getting serious about making quota