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Author Topic: Rearsets ... so what's the go?  (Read 1227 times)
Betty
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« on: October 15, 2009, 01:39:28 PM »

I am sure there is plenty of information about ... but was just after a few personal opinions - particularly local opinions. Second line and I am already off onto a tangent ... it sometimes gets a bit hard to interpret peoples opinions when you don't know how they ride - quite often people who do these type of things (sweeping generalisation of course) are either hard core track junkies or bling addicts that don't really use their bikes ... as I am neither it can be challenging to really understand the pros and cons. Also road condition can have a huge influence so local opinions are the best.

I don't think I was after anything specific, but more about everything in general. I have ridden Jukie (ohh, that can be read different ways) with the Satos and can comment as follows (bear in mind it is set up for her and her size 4 booties):

. greater grip on the pegs (yes I know there are cheaper alternatives)
. feels solid (perhaps the non-pivoting pegs?)
. gear changes seem more positive (although I used to struggle with second due to my lack of dexterity)
. obviously quite adjustable (a pee-wee 50 probably has similar ergonomics)
. the owner is not afraid of a bit of gold

There are specific reasons for changing Jukie's (in no particular order):
. obviously the little person situation
. she had developed a habit of scraping toes
. the stock setup would be hideously ugly with her pipes (and heavy)
. the aforementioned gold fetish

Was there a point? Oh yeah ...
. why have you changed or not changed?
. how have you found the change and was it what you were after?
. why the choice you have or haven't made (could be brand specific)?
. is there anything you have found you don't like?

The reasons I am considering something:
. have lost grip on the pegs a few times
. knees are starting to feel it (you will all understad when you get to my age)

Now I realise that we are all shaped differently and ride differently but let me know what you reckon and please try to move beyond 'Brand X they are the best' type posts and tell me why you think that. Thanks.
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« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2009, 02:27:59 PM »

I'm in Europe, but I'm crazy  Cool - may I speak in the OZ board?

In general,

moving pegs down will about equally open up the angle of the hips AND knees. Might drag pegs though.
MWF Vario from TwistedThrottle. Cheap, but also tend to position feet a bit out.
Also CycleCat, but those are discontinued/out of business.
Best alternative at the moment would be Gilles Tooling - very adjustable incl ~10mm down.

moving pegs rear will open up the angle of the hips - lowering the knees, but not opening their angle.
Rearward position will also angle the feet differently, toes pointing down. You will need to keep the ball of your feet on the pegs (further sharpening knee angle). Most rearsets are designed this way.

My choice was CycleCats for their ability to adjust down. As I developed my skills I wanted them back as well, and that was the beauty of CycleCats - they offer both. My suspension is set up for me, rider's sag at 35mm, and I lean all the way on the track without dragging pegs even if I have the pegs about 10mm lower than stock (back by 40mm though)

Grip - a lot, or most, aftermarket pegs offer better grip than stock.

Maybe adding seat height is what you need, besides a pair of knurled pegs?

BTW, I'm 6' 4" / 190cm
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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2009, 02:47:47 PM »

I'm in Europe, but I'm crazy  Cool - may I speak in the OZ board?

Of course, craziness is a pre-requisite to post here. Personally I appreciate your opinions.

My suspension is set up for me, rider's sag at 35mm, and I lean all the way on the track without dragging pegs even if I have the pegs about 10mm lower than stock (back by 40mm though)

I've seen the photos so good to here about the pegs

BTW, I'm 6' 4" / 190cm

In comparison I'm a midget (but I probably can't say that). I think old age is more of a problem than length of my limbs. Thanks for your input.
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2009, 05:44:48 PM »

As you have maybe seen I have just put Rizoma's on.
I was going to wait for Speedymoto to commit to doing their S*R rearsets but the projected wait time was......

So the only other type I found that I like the look of and adjustment was Rizoma.
As I am also a relative short fry I have wanted to get my feet forward and up giving me the feeling of being able
to keep myself away from the bars/tank giving myself room.

After a wet and careful ride up Mac Pass on Monday, grip was excellent all I am having small issues with getting my
new boots under the peg for changing up. I'll just have to keep fiddling with the little adjustments you can do.

Why did I buy them?
Bling, well yes of course
Adjustment, absolutely especially that when it comes to touring I can drop them down to lengthen the legs and knees.

Did I want these ones, well yes but I would also have bought Cycle Cats again.
I had a chance to buy the last black pair that came up for sale on the parts board, reason I didn't
was as mentioned by Stopintime they are no longer in production and replacement parts will be even more difficult
to get that the rearsets themselves. Not that I am planning on dropping my bike.
But I know Goldfish has a bent arm on his and replacement, well  Huh?

So my waffle to add to Betty's waffle.

Rizoma
Pretty
Adjustable
Replaceable.

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« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2009, 10:40:07 PM »

For me it was simple...

Rizoma's cause:
~ Got them at a great price (when the AUS and USD were even)
~ Adjustability
    * With my long legs I was able to move the pegs back and down and has made the world of difference to comfort.
    * The brake and change levers also are adjustable so was able to set them to suit my boots / style.
~ Grip on the pegs. Heaps better than the stokers.
~ Parts are available (not that I have needed any..)
~ They look dam hot........  waytogo
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« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2009, 11:37:55 PM »

I have Satos on the machine, great grip, good for the shorter rider....I think CC are better for the longer limb amongst us....

do offer a more precise control and a better 'planted' feeling if you don't ride with the tank gripped all the time.

the ano wears off em....but I think it shows the bike gets ridden instead of a 'bling thing' that sits outside a cafe (which is where mine was this morning but a man needs his coffee!).
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« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2009, 01:07:47 AM »

if you feel crowded with std pegs, changing to rearsets is probably going to be a waste of time, although they are adjustable in nearly all directions they are made primarily to go up and back offering extra ground clearance. fitting them and adjusting them to a forward and down position to ease the discomfort of old knees may introduce other problems. dragging your boots, pegs etc. is a real possibility, even if you don't ride particularly fast, hitting a big bump mid corner can be enough, as well as that, there probably won't be enough adjustment for the knees to get relief for long, the S*R series have small pegs and i slip off mine occasionally too but for the cost of rearsets i'll put up with it, non folding pegs are nice though, they definitely feel more secure, maybe try some replacement pegs and see if you feel more secure.


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