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Author Topic: 2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers)  (Read 22152 times)
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« Reply #45 on: October 19, 2009, 07:13:08 AM »

I had the Moody/Ryder show going too...did you hear them say, in the late stages of the race, that Spies would have a full 5 engine allocation for Valencia?

With the WSBK Yamaha, he might need it...the MotoGP machine, not so much Smiley
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« Reply #46 on: October 19, 2009, 10:12:58 AM »

I had the Moody/Ryder show going too...did you hear them say, in the late stages of the race, that Spies would have a full 5 engine allocation for Valencia?
Yes, but it sounded more like conversation than a possible scenario. Wink
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« Reply #47 on: October 19, 2009, 10:33:55 AM »

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« Reply #48 on: October 19, 2009, 11:32:58 AM »

With the WSBK Yamaha, he might need it...the MotoGP machine, not so much Smiley

I think the gist of what they were getting at was that they could build an enjine or 2 for him that wouldn't constricted by the laws of nature the others have had to live under for the last  races.
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« Reply #49 on: October 19, 2009, 11:44:41 AM »

That'll make Edwards happy, bring Spies to the table with a hotrod motor.  laughingdp
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« Reply #50 on: October 19, 2009, 07:09:46 PM »

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« Reply #51 on: October 19, 2009, 08:01:25 PM »

Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too.  Grin

I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower.
Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island?
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« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2009, 11:07:28 PM »

Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too.  Grin

I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower.
Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island?

From the way it sounds, you can't crack the cases for repairs or any other reason, so I don't see how you can get a hotrodded version in there, or a detuned for that matter.  I think they had them all wrapped up and sealed at the beginning.  You don't just show up with a new engine if one breaks, they have already been chosen and put aside. I believe the only way to get an updated engine in there is to break your first five and then start rolling in new ones.
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« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2009, 03:47:46 AM »

Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too.  Grin

I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower.
Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island?

Maybe they only can afford 1 cup of nitro. He blasts off like a firecracker, then coasts the rest of the race. Weird how he had no explanation for  this consistency in the interviews.  coffee

From the way it sounds, you can't crack the cases for repairs or any other reason, so I don't see how you can get a hotrodded version in there, or a detuned for that matter.  I think they had them all wrapped up and sealed at the beginning.  You don't just show up with a new engine if one breaks, they have already been chosen and put aside. I believe the only way to get an updated engine in there is to break your first five and then start rolling in new ones.
And then start last row I guess. funny rule.


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« Reply #54 on: October 20, 2009, 06:31:24 AM »

I was thinking 'external' hotrodding, via the ECU; more fuel, more aggressive ignition timing, higher rev limit.
Perhaps changes to the exhaust and intake plumbing too.
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« Reply #55 on: October 20, 2009, 08:20:27 AM »

You know, I think the fixed engine alotment actually hurts the racing more than it helps on the financial side.  If you enter the season with an uncompetitive engine, then what are you to do?  For instance in the past, Honda swapped to the pneumatic in midseason to get a power boost, but under the new rules I don't see how this is really possible without killing your grid position.  Unless I read it wrong, you better get your off-season updates right or you're in for a very long year.
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« Reply #56 on: October 20, 2009, 08:37:00 AM »

You know, I think the fixed engine alotment actually hurts the racing more than it helps on the financial side.  If you enter the season with an uncompetitive engine, then what are you to do?  For instance in the past, Honda swapped to the pneumatic in midseason to get a power boost, but under the new rules I don't see how this is really possible without killing your grid position.  Unless I read it wrong, you better get your off-season updates right or you're in for a very long year.

I believe when they started the rule, there was five motors available. You could choose how many you wanted sealed. Take two out of those five and have them sealed to race with. The other three you can update and make changes to, but once you have them sealed by tech, that's it.

Also didn't the announcers say something about Suzuki being penalized for motors, but they were going to use the rest of the season as development time?
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« Reply #57 on: October 20, 2009, 08:39:57 AM »


Also didn't the announcers say something about Suzuki being penalized for motors, but they were going to use the rest of the season as development time?

yup, loris had already used his allotment for the season.
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« Reply #58 on: October 20, 2009, 09:11:51 AM »

yup, loris had already used his allotment for the season.

Whats the penalty? start at the back?
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« Reply #59 on: October 20, 2009, 09:18:54 AM »

and -10 Constructor's points...Zuk had nothing really to lose.

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