2009 MotoGP Round 15 - Phillip Island (Race Spoilers)

[desmoquattro]

I had the Moody/Ryder show going too...did you hear them say, in the late stages of the race, that Spies would have a full 5 engine allocation for Valencia?

With the WSBK Yamaha, he might need it...the MotoGP machine, not so much

[ducpainter]

I had the Moody/Ryder show going too...did you hear them say, in the late stages of the race, that Spies would have a full 5 engine allocation for Valencia?

Yes, but it sounded more like conversation than a possible scenario.

[desmoquattro]

I liked the AUS flag livery...

[bdfinally]

With the WSBK Yamaha, he might need it...the MotoGP machine, not so much

I think the gist of what they were getting at was that they could build an enjine or 2 for him that wouldn't constricted by the laws of nature the others have had to live under for the last  races.

[Speeddog]

That'll make Edwards happy, bring Spies to the table with a hotrod motor. 

[bdfinally]

I agree, but who do you wanna make happier, the guy you're investing in the future with or the guy you strung out to the end and then signed

[Speeddog]

Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too. 

I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower.
Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island?

[Jester]

Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too. 

I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower.
Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island?

From the way it sounds, you can't crack the cases for repairs or any other reason, so I don't see how you can get a hotrodded version in there, or a detuned for that matter.  I think they had them all wrapped up and sealed at the beginning.  You don't just show up with a new engine if one breaks, they have already been chosen and put aside. I believe the only way to get an updated engine in there is to break your first five and then start rolling in new ones.

[Desmostro]

Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too. 

I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower.
Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island?

Maybe they only can afford 1 cup of nitro. He blasts off like a firecracker, then coasts the rest of the race. Weird how he had no explanation for  this consistency in the interviews. 

From the way it sounds, you can't crack the cases for repairs or any other reason, so I don't see how you can get a hotrodded version in there, or a detuned for that matter.  I think they had them all wrapped up and sealed at the beginning.  You don't just show up with a new engine if one breaks, they have already been chosen and put aside. I believe the only way to get an updated engine in there is to break your first five and then start rolling in new ones.

And then start last row I guess. funny rule.

[Speeddog]

I was thinking 'external' hotrodding, via the ECU; more fuel, more aggressive ignition timing, higher rev limit.
Perhaps changes to the exhaust and intake plumbing too.

[Jester]

You know, I think the fixed engine alotment actually hurts the racing more than it helps on the financial side.  If you enter the season with an uncompetitive engine, then what are you to do?  For instance in the past, Honda swapped to the pneumatic in midseason to get a power boost, but under the new rules I don't see how this is really possible without killing your grid position.  Unless I read it wrong, you better get your off-season updates right or you're in for a very long year.

[DanTheMan]

You know, I think the fixed engine alotment actually hurts the racing more than it helps on the financial side.  If you enter the season with an uncompetitive engine, then what are you to do?  For instance in the past, Honda swapped to the pneumatic in midseason to get a power boost, but under the new rules I don't see how this is really possible without killing your grid position.  Unless I read it wrong, you better get your off-season updates right or you're in for a very long year.

I believe when they started the rule, there was five motors available. You could choose how many you wanted sealed. Take two out of those five and have them sealed to race with. The other three you can update and make changes to, but once you have them sealed by tech, that's it.

Also didn't the announcers say something about Suzuki being penalized for motors, but they were going to use the rest of the season as development time?

[derby]

Also didn't the announcers say something about Suzuki being penalized for motors, but they were going to use the rest of the season as development time?

yup, loris had already used his allotment for the season.

[DanTheMan]

yup, loris had already used his allotment for the season.

Whats the penalty? start at the back?

[bdfinally]

and -10 Constructor's points...Zuk had nothing really to lose.