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Scheffy.G
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« on: October 25, 2009, 09:47:52 AM »

Just a reminder to everyone to be careful who you buy from, and to GET PICTURES of everything if it's used.
Case in point: I recently posted for some barends, exhaust mount hardware, a mirror, and brake lever (all STOCK, key word...) in the parts wanted section and got a reply from someone who, for the sole purpose of preserving my membership shall remain nameless (unless you really wanna know...). They said they had everything but the exhaust hardware, we agreed on a price ($60 FWIW), and  after repeating everything was in good condition they sent the parts out and I got the exhaust hardware elsewhere.
The only decent part was the mirror. This is what he sent for a lever and barends:


Notice that the bent lever (the one they sent) is also duller than the good one behind it. It's because they rattle-canned it black to cover up the scraped end after it came off whatever wrecked bike it was from. And after the picture, I don't really need to comment on the bar ends they sent (the plastic thing on the left of the real one)... "Stock" and "good condition" apparently means "scrap bin closeout special" in Douchebaggian.
Plus there was a handwritten note on a scrap of paper saying the bar ends were rougher than they remembered, so they sent a couple bolts and rubbers as exhaust hardware to make up for it, instead of just calling me like a legitimate business would do and seeing if I still wanted them and finding out I already got them somewhere else.
After emails went nowhere, I called and the offer I got was a refund, but only after I shipped the parts back (including the only good thing, the mirror). Now if somebody sent you this stuff, would you honestly trust them to give your money back after sending back parts and being left empty handed? A counter offer to refund half before shipping and half after receiving the parts resulted in some insults and them hanging up on me and ignoring subsequent calls.
I emailed him pictures in case somebody else shipped them and he didn't know how bad they were (it's a business, loosely defined), and I got a tantrum reply stating "Why don't you send back the lever, bar ends and free mounting hardware and go back to watching CSI. You'll get a $17 refund. I am done with you."
Long story short, I know most people on this forum are trustworthy and honest, but be sure to cover your ass anyway. There are still f*&^stains out there that feed their families by hosing the rest of us.
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« Reply #1 on: October 25, 2009, 11:28:50 AM »

Not that anything else is excusable, but you didn't say in your post what bike you have. The barends he sent are the stock barends for the Monsters with steel bars (came on my S2R800). The ones on the bike in your first pics were stock on the S2R and S4R with Magura bars...
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« Reply #2 on: October 25, 2009, 03:18:27 PM »

I'll admit I didn't know that they were stock for steel bars, so my bad. Either way, even that was something that was clarified with a single, civil message instead of some 3rd grade playground insult-slinging.
But anyway, lesson learned. At least I wasn't ordering a frame or something - probably would have ended up with random bits of PVC and hose clamps!
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« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2009, 03:26:03 PM »

Even so with the wrong bar end... The one sent looks like it was victim of a crash or two.

That totally sucks
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« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2009, 06:26:23 PM »

If it's a "business" then we should be able to know who it is. If it's a business not paying sponsorship fees then the flounders need to know. Post up.
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« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2009, 12:28:41 AM »

If it's a "business" then we should be able to know who it is. If it's a business not paying sponsorship fees then the flounders need to know. Post up.

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Exactly.  Show us who is behind the curtain.
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« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2009, 02:06:01 AM »

On other boards, there is a "tenure" requirement for selling items to board members.

Scheffy - I think I have a set of OEM barends.  If you still need some, say so and I'll give a look today after work.  If I have them, they're yours FOC.
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« Reply #7 on: October 26, 2009, 04:12:14 AM »

On other boards, there is a "tenure" requirement for selling items to board members.

Scheffy - I think I have a set of OEM barends.  If you still need some, say so and I'll give a look today after work.  If I have them, they're yours FOC.
And I have several stock mirrors that I'm not using. PM me a pic of the one you need, and I'll send you the mirror if I have it.


Oh, and +3 on the name of the business.
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« Reply #8 on: October 26, 2009, 07:00:41 AM »

I think the OP should PM the particluars to the mod and have them make the decision on whether or not the name of the individual/business should be outed.
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« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2009, 08:21:11 AM »

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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2009, 08:48:46 AM »

I think the OP should PM the particluars to the mod and have them make the decision on whether or not the name of the individual/business should be outed.

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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2009, 12:31:35 PM »

I think the OP should PM the particluars to the mod and have them make the decision on whether or not the name of the individual/business should be outed.
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2009, 01:27:19 PM »

Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience. For what it's worth, for all the transactions that do go through on the forum, it's nice to know that instances like this are for the most part rare.

+1 to all those who have been forthright and honest about the condition of the components that you sell. I purchased my monster through the old forum, and except for a series of clear pictures, it was sight unseen. After communicating with a really good DML'er, when I got it (it was delivered from Denver), it was perfect. Just as it was described.

Regardless, it doesn't matter how big or small a part is, if you lie about it in anyway as part of a business transaction, you don't deserve to sell on a reputable forum like this.

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« Reply #13 on: October 26, 2009, 03:34:07 PM »

Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience....
...Regardless, it doesn't matter how big or small a part is, if you lie about it in anyway as part of a business transaction, you don't deserve to sell on a reputable forum like this.

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« Reply #14 on: October 26, 2009, 04:13:52 PM »

Sorry to hear that you had a bad experience. For what it's worth, for all the transactions that do go through on the forum, it's nice to know that instances like this are for the most part rare.

+1 to all those who have been forthright and honest about the condition of the components that you sell. I purchased my monster through the old forum, and except for a series of clear pictures, it was sight unseen. After communicating with a really good DML'er, when I got it (it was delivered from Denver), it was perfect. Just as it was described.

Regardless, it doesn't matter how big or small a part is, if you lie about it in anyway as part of a business transaction, you don't deserve to sell on a reputable forum like this.

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Agreed. And like you said, for the most part I've had no problems with sales on here, and I don't want anybody coming away with the impression that sales on this board are a crapshoot. I even got my Monster off the old board as well and everything turned out fine. Never hurts to just be reminded to cover yourself though, plus as anybody else who's ever been ripped off can attest, sometimes you just gotta vent.  drink
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