considering moving to SF

[hihhs]

Thanks Spidey.
As a rule I would like to avoid gunplay in the area. I tend to frown on stabbings as well, though I do understand how these things occur. My wife is from a cul de sac in Connecticut and therefore less than tolerant of these types of activities.

I've seen a ton of places on CL. Hear is one that got my attention;

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/1442221059.html

[desmoquattro]

Thanks Spidey.
As a rule I would like to avoid gunplay in the area. I tend to frown on stabbings as well, though I do understand how these things occur. My wife is from a cul de sac in Connecticut and therefore less than tolerant of these types of activities.

I've seen a ton of places on CL. Hear is one that got my attention;

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/sfc/apa/1442221059.html

Not a bad spot...albeit a bit out of the way. It does get a little foggy up there, and they're lying when they say it's close to SOMA. You'd end up motorcycling a lot from there, as the public transit is a question up there. And it looks like they don't understand teh interwebz:

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[Spidey]

That's probably less than 1/2 mile from my place, but it's straight uphill.  It's a nice but quiet area on the west side of the biggest hill in SF.  Spec-make the beast with two backsing-tacular views.  Foggy as hell.  Somewhat less populated because of the fog, because it's not particularly close to the streetcar or BART (you'd have to catch a bus first, but I'm prettys sure that one runs straight down Portola to Market to the Muni station in Castro), and because there's not really a 'central' area for the twin peaks neighborhood.  For example, going to a restaurant would likely be a drive rather than a walk.  If you've got a bike, that's what you'd probably use to get around.  There's a Safeway and Walgreens and some other shopping stuff nearby (I think it's on the google map).  Oh, and if the gheys freak ya out, you'll wanna stay away from Twin Peaks, Upper Market and Castro.

If you find one spot in particular and get all excited about it, one of us can check it out for you.  

Edit:  Yeah, that bit about SOMA is wrong.  The only way it has all the 'amenities' of SOMA (lots of bars, clubs, restaurants, human feces, methodone clinics, etc.) is if you were to drive from that place in Twin Peaks down to SOMA and then walk around.  

[desmoquattro]

BTW - If you're going to be working downtown, be aware that they recently raised motorcycle meter rates to $0.70/hr.

[hihhs]

.70 an hour for motorcycles?
Hell, I've been on the island too long. I didn't think anybody paid to park bikes.

[hihhs]

Spidey-
Thanks a lot for the insight.
That one caught my eye because it was in the city, with a yard, and dog friendly.
I never thought that we would be able to be in the city with the dogs, but hell maybe so.
That would be sweet.

I was expecting to be in Concord or somewhere, which may be fine. But good to know there are options.

[Michael Moore]

OK, I'll admit I'm late to this party, and heavily biased toward Marin, so I thought I'd throw these into the pot:

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/1446043174.html

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/1446160981.html

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/1445648465.html

http://sfbay.craigslist.org/nby/apa/1440866613.html

From Marin your options for commuting are:
a) the ferry (Larkspur or Sausalito). Great option if you work downtown, but it isn't the fastest choice.
b) the Golden Gate Transit bus. Not a bad choice, but if you tend to work late the bus frequency drops
c) ride the bike into the city. Golden Gate Bridge is free if you go during commute hours and parking is (relatively) cheap. Oh, and you can lane-split in CA, which can take some getting used to, but is a godsend during rush hour.

The good news is that in minutes you're out riding amongst the cows, the weather's better, and the city's close if you need to go in for dinner etc.  Plus we have a better Ducati dealer than the city. 

[hihhs]

Michael Moore-

Truthfully, I didn't think we could afford Marin. I also thought Marin rentals wouldn't have yards.
Thanks for the links!

I think we'd like it there, though I've never been.
Sadly I don't think public trans will work for me as I'll be all over the city for work.

[Michael Moore]

Commuting into the city by bike isn't bad at all. I did it for a couple of years, and if you're going to be moving about the city, it's a good option. Or get a freeway legal scooter or beater bike if you don't want to rack up the miles on your Monster.

[hihhs]

I'd take the miles on the Monster. My wife says I'm in a much better mood returning home on the bike than in my company vehicle here. I'm sure the same would be true in SF.
It seems like a great way to release tension from the work day.

[Spidey]

The problem with Marin is dealing with all those aged hippies. (see above).  

[hihhs]

The problem with Marin is dealing with all those aged hippies. (see above).  

Wow; aged.
It is way too early in the morning for me to have to read that word when related to my contemporaries.
Ouch.

How about we go with fully developed. That has a nice ring to it.

Don't you think?

Plus I much prefer fully developed hippies to new hippies.

[Spidey]

I was talking about Grandpa Michael.  You're welcome to be "fully developed."  

New hippies are awful.  Notice that I completely left the Haight off my list of neighborhoods .

[hihhs]

You have not truly disliked new hippies until you live in Hawaii. Beautiful day at the beach, quiet, a nice breeze. Then you go snorkeling, exit the water...

...and there is drum circle. Twenty dirty, but middle class white kids, beating on any misshapen, POS bongo they could get their patchouli stained fingers onto.

I have never really wanted a grenade launcher before.

[Spidey]

You might wanna think hard about whether you include the People's Republic of Berkeley in your search.  Or get your hands on that grenade launcher.