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Author Topic: Opinions needed on the 2006 S2R800 Dark  (Read 4083 times)
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« Reply #30 on: November 03, 2009, 05:51:54 AM »

I think Dennis is more interested in performance than looks. The 1100, as 696, forces the rider's weight forward due to the seat positioning. This puts more weight on the front that can only help in the turning in. It's also feels more stable in the turns, but that was on the 1100S, so I'm not sure how much was the Ohlins. You will learn much if you get to test ride them. I live in Florida now so comfort is very high on the list. If I live right next to twisties, I would look at an 1100. If I had to ride a considerable amount to get to decent roads, then 1000 would be my choice.
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« Reply #31 on: November 03, 2009, 11:56:29 AM »

As long as that quicker turning bike does not also act "skittish" mid turn or at higher speeds, it's a good thing.
That's where performance becomes subjective: how quick is too quick? I think that's Betty's point (sorry if I'm getting that wrong Betty). Something handles better (IMO) if it turns in faster, holds a line better, etc. It's an objective measurement. How much you like something turning in quick, how much it suits your style or needs is a subjective measurement.

For me (just to be clear, this is only based on sitting on the M1100), the shape of the tank on the M1100 actually gives you somewhere to grip with your knee when you're trying to hang off. That's a big deal. The stock exhaust on the M1100 doesn't foul your heel on the right side like the S2R and that's also a big deal for me. Personally (now that I've taken a second to actually think about it laughingdp) those two items alone are deal breakers when it comes to the S2R/S4R. The exhaust fouling on the Streetfighter is just idiotic.

My S4RS burnt nearly all the way through my new boots, I ended up putting an ExBox on it but that's a lot to spend to remove the poor ergonomics which *will* affect your comfort on the bike and your ability to be comfortable hitting the twisties without mods.
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« Reply #32 on: November 03, 2009, 03:00:20 PM »

That's where performance becomes subjective: how quick is too quick? I think that's Betty's point (sorry if I'm getting that wrong Betty). Something handles better (IMO) if it turns in faster, holds a line better, etc. It's an objective measurement. How much you like something turning in quick, how much it suits your style or needs is a subjective measurement.

That's pretty much the point I was trying to make ... subjective.

It doesn't handle better if you can't handle how it handles  cheeky laughingdp
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« Reply #33 on: November 03, 2009, 03:07:51 PM »

OK, for those of you that have been trying to help me make up my mind; please follow me over here:

http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=31531.0
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« Reply #34 on: November 03, 2009, 07:13:02 PM »

It doesn't handle better if you can't handle how it handles  cheeky laughingdp
I'd argue that it handles better but the rider is the handling problem but I know I'm splitting hairs. Wink
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« Reply #35 on: November 03, 2009, 07:41:58 PM »

I'd argue that it handles better but the rider is the handling problem but I know I'm splitting hairs. Wink

That's subjective  Wink Wink
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« Reply #36 on: November 03, 2009, 07:44:32 PM »

You are.


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