1000cc in 2012

[gm2]

That's the most tragically lame wording for a rule I've seen in quite a while.

Shameful. 

they started with "shit better work"

[zooom]

based on, is you kidding?  i'm pretty sure the FIM doesn't refer to the AMA for anything.  

there have been plenty of horrific examples in motogp of why this is a good idea.

I was kidding, but I can't think of any specific incidents offhand in WSBK or MotoGP that are anywhere near to being like the one at Daytona on a general basis....and it would seem to me that the racing is WSBK is pretty durned close with the fairing bashing that can and does occur...in GP, when it occurs, usually it seems there are other circumstances beyond that point of control or impact that a device like this wouldn't necessisarily change any outcome....only thing it might do is make a bike more returnable to the race track after a minor crash or keep someone from grinding off a pinky if their hand is stuck on the bar....

[gm2]

I was kidding, but I can't think of any specific incidents offhand in WSBK or MotoGP that are anywhere near to being like the one at Daytona on a general basis....and it would seem to me that the racing is WSBK is pretty durned close with the fairing bashing that can and does occur...in GP, when it occurs, usually it seems there are other circumstances beyond that point of control or impact that a device like this wouldn't necessisarily change any outcome....only thing it might do is make a bike more returnable to the race track after a minor crash or keep someone from grinding off a pinky if their hand is stuck on the bar....

gibernau -> capirossi, melandri, pedro.  catalunya 2006, t1.

[zooom]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Nov/111118electr.htm

I like Dean's .02 on this in regards to Carmelo's whole diatribe...

[fastwin]

I approve of that article.

[Speeddog]

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Nov/111118electr.htm

I like Dean's .02 on this in regards to Carmelo's whole diatribe...

Apparently, he hasn't heard what Carmelo said regarding Spec ECU's. 

[Drunken Monkey]

2.5.1
The following are the revised minimum weights permitted:

- Moto3: motorcycle & rider 148kg

 

 

[avizpls]

It's the electronics stupid.

[gm2]

not 2012 related, but whatever:

http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/8355/valentino-rossi-i-wouldnt-have-problems-riding-a-crt

"it’s clear that we must use less expensive bikes and if this is the only way I wouldn’t have problems riding a CRT, although no one is excited by this."


oh, and rossi got 2nd at the WRC Monza event.  2nd!

[lazylightnin717]

“I’ll do a few more years in MotoGP, then I’d race in rallies : these machines are really fun to drive because they have less electronics.”



Yup

[thought]

Now with Edwards finally swinging a leg over the BMW S1000RR-powered Suter prototype, surely more comparisons between the factory prototypes and CRT offerings are to ensue. Posting a best lap time of 1’40.188 at the Spanish GP earlier this year, Edwards was roughly 2.5 seconds off his own pace, finishing the three-day test with a best lap to f 1’42.6. That news seems discouraging on its face, though it should be noted that the team dropped 1.3 seconds between Wednesday and Thursday’s tests.

Edwards also rated the bike at about 65% of its potential, while the Texan’s own fitness was questionable, as Edwards was till recovering from the injuries he sustained at the Malaysian GP. WIth all those caveat, does this week’s test equate to excuses for a lackluster performance, or justify that more leaps and gains will be made before the start of the 2012 MotoGP Championship?

http://www.asphaltandrubber.com/racing/colin-edwards-crt-debut-jerez/

still shaping up to be 2 races run every race... the factory race and the crt race, but this is a bit more promising.

[derby]

still shaping up to be 2 races run every race... the factory race and the crt race, but this is a bit more promising.

that's pretty much what everybody has been expecting. the crt guys are much like the factory teams in f1, beating a factory bike will be a victory for them.

it'll take a season or two for the factories to work this out of their system, but i expect them to eventually embrace the crt formula (even if carmelo needs to force it down their throats).

[zooom]

yeah, but the Aspar 'Priller concept that is alledgedly skating the thin ice around the rules, may tip some of the CRT shit to the fine edge of speculum kinds of examination if they do anything exploitive like they did in WSBK....

[thought]

yeah, but the Aspar 'Priller concept that is alledgedly skating the thin ice around the rules, may tip some of the CRT shit to the fine edge of speculum kinds of examination if they do anything exploitive like they did in WSBK....

the other factories having the ability to claim the engine should help curb this, no?  only so much they can do to the engine when they know that everyone else will get their secrets for pennies on the dollar.

but yeah... the aprilia is already a bit of a ringer and in full motogp dress might push the rules a bit too much.

that being said... having more manufacturers pumping out production v4 engines/bikes to compete in crt motogp would be sweet 

[zooom]

the other factories having the ability to claim the engine should help curb this, no?  only so much they can do to the engine when they know that everyone else will get their secrets for pennies on the dollar.

getting their engine is one thing...using it is another....given the chassis's and how custom they are going to have to be for the production engines....