don't let the door hit'cha where the good lord split'cha

Started by Grampa, November 10, 2009, 04:18:47 AM

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desmo_drum

That cocksucker made me stop, drop, and roll every time I put gas in my truck. They were found about 20 miles from my house. Personally, I would rather see him stay in prison and be traded for cigarettes the rest of his life, but this is good too.
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redxblack

I've been researching high profile executions of mentally ill killers in the late 19th century. Muhammad claims to be mentally ill, but I don't really hear that much about it in the press (as far as details, how ill, etc). Given that capital crimes rests on mens rea, I'd be interested in more information on what his damage actually is. If anyone has a link, please...

Didn't Lee Boyd Malvo get life in prison for testifying against Muhammad? Arrangements like that always bother me. I understand the necessity in legal compromises, but not on a capital case. There are times when compromises are too great.

Kopfjäger

When they say "convicted sniper", that pisses me off. (it's insulting)

How about "Convicted murderer."

Bye bye scumbag coward.
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Quote from: redxblack on November 10, 2009, 07:28:38 AM
I've been researching high profile executions of mentally ill killers in the late 19th century. Muhammad claims to be mentally ill, but I don't really hear that much about it in the press (as far as details, how ill, etc). Given that capital crimes rests on mens rea, I'd be interested in more information on what his damage actually is. If anyone has a link, please...

Didn't Lee Boyd Malvo get life in prison for testifying against Muhammad? Arrangements like that always bother me. I understand the necessity in legal compromises, but not on a capital case. There are times when compromises are too great.

Mentally ill?  You betcha!  There is a big difference between mentally ill and criminally insane.

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Quote from: howie on November 10, 2009, 08:17:31 AM
Mentally ill?  You betcha!  There is a big difference between mentally ill and criminally insane.


Quote from: Mr. Exact on November 10, 2009, 08:04:00 AM
IMO lethal injection is too gentle for this guy...



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rgramjet

Quote from: kopfjäger on November 10, 2009, 07:52:41 AM
When they say "convicted sniper", that pisses me off. (it's insulting)

How about "Convicted murderer."

Bye bye scumbag coward.

+1

Those pieces of shit give "shit" a bad name....

The Shell station where the lady was killed as she vacuumed her mini van is literally 1/2 mile from my house.  Way too close to home.
Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
You're obviously a crack smokin' redneck carpenter. :-*

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Kopfjäger

Quote from: rgramjet on November 10, 2009, 08:27:38 AM
+1

Those pieces of shit give "shit" a bad name....

The Shell station where the lady was killed as she vacuumed her mini van is literally 1/2 mile from my house.  Way too close to home.

If he was aiming at her and hit you 1/2 mi away, that would be the worst shot in the world.
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mstevens

Quote from: redxblack on November 10, 2009, 07:28:38 AMGiven that capital crimes rests on mens rea, I'd be interested in more information on what his damage actually is.

Disclaimer: I used to do forensic psychiatry in the Texas prison system.

Different jurisdictions use different standards for competency to stand trial, competency at the time of the offense, competency for sentencing, and so on. Some use very strict standards (such as not knowing right from wrong) while others use less-strict ones. Mens rea is an element of any crime, AFAIK, not just capital ones.

I think it'd be hard to show that volitional and cognitive components were lacking in a case where a specialized shooting platform was built in the trunk of a car, showing intent, and attempts were made to hide who shot and to evade law enforcement, showing a knowledge that others would view the act as wrong. As I understand it, Virginia also requires that a mental illness must be the primary cause of the criminal behavior, not just a contributing factor. That's a pretty high hurdle to clear.

Let's put it this way: I see mentally ill people all day, every day. Some of them are pretty darned crazy. Only a teeny percentage of them have ever broken a law apart from parking tickets. Those that have usually get in trouble for trespassing or "disturbing the peace." By far the most dangerous patients I've ever worked with are elderly people with dementias such as Alzheimer's.

Bad people are about as likely as the rest of us to have a mental illness. Whether they have one or not doesn't change that they're bad people.
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Quote from: desmo_drum on November 10, 2009, 07:00:12 AM
That cocksucker made me stop, drop, and roll every time I put gas in my truck. They were found about 20 miles from my house. Personally, I would rather see him stay in prison and be traded for cigarettes the rest of his life, but this is good too.

I remember deciding where to get gas based on whether there was a clear line for shot or not....I also remember running my 3 year old into her day care center (where they kept the blinds completely down) and trying to explain to her why it wasn't a good idea to play outside right now.
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Quote from: kopfjäger on November 10, 2009, 07:52:41 AM
When they say "convicted sniper", that pisses me off. (it's insulting)

How about "Convicted murderer."

Bye bye scumbag coward.

It portrays the gun as a responsible party as well as the operator. That's why it is used that way, whether intentionally or not, by the journalist.

rgramjet

I remember doing the "Radar O'Reilly Sniper Scurry" on more than one occassion while going to/coming from an ATM....
Quote from: ducpainter on May 20, 2010, 02:11:47 PM
You're obviously a crack smokin' redneck carpenter. :-*

in 1st and 2nd it was like this; ringy-ting-ting-ting slow boring ho-hum .......oh!........OMG! What the fu.........HOLY SHIT !!--ARGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!
-Sofadriver

What has been smelled, cannot be unsmelled!