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« on: November 18, 2009, 06:17:56 AM »

Which Monster would be able to handle the increased weight of being triked and still be fun to ride?

I'm motivated by this 'Tricati':  http://www.duccutters.com/GaryTompkins-Tricati.tpl


More info before yall totally hang me from my toes and send me hate mail...

I'm back in the market again.  Several months ago I was in the market and ended up going the practical route and purchased an SV650.  Two weekends ago I totaled it in an accident that also left me with a couple broken bones in my shoulder.  Needless to say in my healing time I've got a lot on my mind for shopping around but also getting things straight in my head.  My confidence did take a hit in this first wreck (2700ml under my belt).  The upside is I actually feel some relief to have a clean slate.  For full disclosure sake, I ride with only one arm.  My left arm is paralyzed from an accident 11 years ago (lucky it was the one I broke this time around)   cheeky  Considering that our riding here in TX isn't twisty as in Japan, being on two-wheels here doesn't ensure the fulfillment of feeling the lean.  I think that "argument" is the only one that opens my mind up for a trike.  Other than that, I still want to be on two wheels.  I'm no quitter, which is what I feel like even considering a trike.   Undecided


I do want another Duc in the house again. 
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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2009, 06:35:16 AM »

How would you like your death sentence.... chair, injection,  Grin   
Seriously though, I admire your persistence. I think it would cost quite a bit to trike a Duc, but you would have one seriously unique ride.
Does this float your fancy? I saw one parked after a long ride, and was really impressed. I think the newer ones had power steering? Decent cargo room. The only draw back I saw was it has alot of fail safe built in. If you lift the inner wheel in a turn, throttle cuts back, etc... Takes some of the fun out of it, but safety margin goes up. How about painting it Ducati red and powder coat the rims white? Throw a ducati decal on the tank, and your good to go! Vino!
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2009, 06:54:00 AM »

+1 on a pre-triked bike.  I trust an engineered solution more than a re-engineered one.  Also 106 HP is nothing to sneeze at.
However, if you do convert a bike, I double-dog dare you to do a single-sided swingarm  Grin

Way to stick with it, and I hope you find something that fits for you... waytogo
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2009, 07:17:00 AM »

wow that's call passion... so how did you pull clutch on your sv?
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2009, 07:20:56 AM »

Given your physical condition I think a trike is worth considering. I did a quick search online & came up with the site below. Might be better?

http://www.trikealternative.com/
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2009, 07:26:46 AM »

How about a side car?
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2009, 08:44:14 AM »

Look at Urals with sidecars (Storm Cycles in Grande Prairie is the Texas Ural Dealer).

Look at the T-Rex and the Can-Am Spyder as well.

There is also the GG Quadsters.

Just some cool alternatives I thought I'd throw out. I was all ready to make fun of you for wanting a trike, then I read the bottom paragraph, good idea including that because otherwise people might think you were just some schmo who wanted a trike for trike's sake.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2009, 09:04:51 AM »

Thanks for not mobbing me right away  Wink


Honestly the idea of a trike didn't seem attractive at first.  I don't like and don't want a gigantic, chromy Lazyboy on wheels.  I think my personality and tastes are more sporty.  I do prefer the sport standard bikes to anything else.  (My first bike was a Japan spec 2001 VTR250; SV was 2nd)

My husband did suggest the trike idea which I think is why I fought it.  "NO!  I will not!"...(just because you suggested it!)  lol  He does keep bringing up the Can Am; I think its butt-ugly and I don't want to be seen on one  Embarrassed   In an practical retort, it is very expensive for what would be a toy.  If DH is willing to spend big bucks on an item I don't want, maybe he'd spend big bucks on an acceptable option I would want.

In an effort to honestly consider my options and be fair, if I didn't like the Can Am, what would I consider instead?  Well, a triked bike that I wanted.  I've seen that Tricati before on a disabled riders forum.  It was cool then, but I didn't realize until I looked at it again that I could enjoy a unique ride like that.  It fulfills the reasonable argument of a trike, and it gets me on a Ducati like I've wanted for l-o-n-g time.  I think I'd be rightly excited about riding that everywhere.  And by myself.  To this day I don't ride alone for safety sake (always with DH).  Contrary to the motorcycling spirit, I'm not truly independent, unlike the rest of me off the bike.  

The more I think about it, the more the idea grows on me to the point of the verge of excitement to get such a project on the road.  If I've done my homework right I *believe* the rear of the Tricati is actually a kit from a company in the UK http://www.netupandgo.com/hankschopshop/kits.html    At over $5k USD it isn't cheap.  


Re sidecar:  Still in consideration.  My concerns between a trike and sidecar are 'how do they drive compared to each other'.  Since it is me with one arm, "which of the two would be easier to manage at all speeds?" is the only real question I have.  I think sidecars are neat.  Again not wanting a big boat of a rig but I think they are attractive when pretty utilitarian like Ural rigs.  Cool.  Ever been a Ducati sidecar setup???


Re controls:  To ride my bikes I move the controls to the right side.  Front brake over clutch.  The hydraulic clutch of the Ducati does add difficulty to the conversion.  I've seen Durbahn's cable clutch conversion kit.  Even if that isn't what I go with, it has been established that it can be rigged mechanically for cable actuation.


I certainly don't do thing the easy way, do I?  

Easy way:  Trike a Hondamatic
Hard way:  My plans

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2009, 09:18:43 AM »

Re: sidecar = http://www.duccutters.com/Unknown-Sidecar.tpl

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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2009, 09:49:47 AM »

I wouldn't bother converting the clutch to cable - the fact that is hydraulic should give you more/easier options for line routing and master cylinder location.  Might need to find a right hand master cylinder that is compatible with the slave.

Couple other Duc conversions:



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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2009, 09:59:21 AM »

I thought the outrigger option would provide the fun of leaning with the added safety you're looking for?

The Can-Am spiders are a good option, much more stable than a trike, I'd go Can-Am over trike if I had the option.
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2009, 10:51:58 AM »

I had a customer approach me awhile back to take one of these front suspension / steering systems and work with the vendor (@1hr from myself) to integrate into a S2R800 Monster.  Nothing became of it though due to the economy and his job layoff...

Kneeslider article --> http://thekneeslider.com/archives/2007/11/20/tilting-v-max-trike-by-tilting-motor-works/

Tilting Motor Works --> http://www.tiltingmotorworks.com/

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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2009, 10:57:51 AM »

That seems like a cool option.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2009, 12:03:27 PM »

Wow, some neat options for sure!  I would have liked to see videos of that tilting front end in normal everyday city stuff.  In and out of parking lots, neighborhood, traffic and general 'living with it' sort of videos.

Part of what makes riding more difficult for me is those uneven intersections, slow crawls in traffic, off-camber parking...I think all those little stresses that are bigger to shorter riders.  What is often suggested as a fix is to lean off the bike or the tiptoeing is easier with more riding experience doesn't work for me.  Reason is because I only have one point of contact on the handle bars which places me in a more precarious position.  It also increases the need for both my feet to be planted on the ground.  I think part of the 'relief' going to the trike is that those types of situations wouldn't require a second thought compared to two wheels.  In a way I don't want to admit those situations are troublesome and stressful but I am poised to leap at the chance of not having those worries so I can just enjoy going into unknown areas.  

I've briefly considered riding track only on two wheels so I can get that fulfillment.  I don't know anything about getting started doing anything related to track riding.  

I still want to be out on the road piloting my own machine which bring me to the trike.


The Can Am is still ugly  cheeky   I think there's one at the shop down the road for sale right now.  I saw it on Ebay.  I'm "suppose to" go down and take a look at it to satisfy the Spousal Unit.  Maybe this weekend...  



So, back to my still unanswered original question, anyone have an idea of which size Monster would handle the weight of a trike?  I'll dig ad see what kind of weight would be added but I thought at a minimum an 800cc would be minimum.  Needs to run on the highway.


Thanks for the suggestions gentlemen
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2009, 01:30:07 PM »

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http://www.brudelitech.com/

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