Here Comes E15. Maybe. Probably.

[bluemoco]

Ethanol is a huge industry here in MN.  We even have 350 stations that sell E85, and the state wanted to have 1800 by 2010.  However, the demand just isn't there, and that goal is very unlikely to be achieved.

Many of our ethanol producers are going bankrupt.  Among the largest is Verasun, which operates ethanol refineries across the midwest.

I have a fundamental disagreement with the concept of using a food source (corn) as a fuel.  That's all I'm gonna say about that.  

[Oldfisti]

 We throw away tons and tons solid organic waste every day, which releases tons of methane gas.

This is important because methane is more than twentyfold worse a greenhouse gas than CO2 will ever be.

Stick that in your carbon footprint!

[bluemoco]

A couple more things to ponder.  From today's Wall Street Journal:

"Monday's monthly report from the DOE revised overall (U.S. oil) demand in September down by more than half a million barrels a day. At 18.4 million barrels, it was up on a year before, but comparisons with the month when Lehman Brothers collapsed tend to flatter. Demand in September 2007 was 20.4 million barrels a day.

Domestic production of oil has actually risen by about 450,000 barrels a day in the past year. Stocks at Cushing, Okla., the reference point for the Nymex West Texas Intermediate oil benchmark, are more than a third higher than last year. Stocks of distillate, including diesel, fell, but remain 30% above the five-year average. Refiners are chugging along at a low utilization rate of about 80%."

[LowThudd]

This is important because methane is more than twentyfold worse a greenhouse gas than CO2 will ever be.

Stick that in your carbon footprint!

Yep, and all that methane can be contained and used to produce Syndiesel, as well as the garbage creating it.

[LowThudd]

A couple more things to ponder.  From today's Wall Street Journal:

"Monday's monthly report from the DOE revised overall (U.S. oil) demand in September down by more than half a million barrels a day. At 18.4 million barrels, it was up on a year before, but comparisons with the month when Lehman Brothers collapsed tend to flatter. Demand in September 2007 was 20.4 million barrels a day.

Probably due to people shopping less because of the economy. Less goods=less diesel trucks/trains/airplanes.

[ducatiz]

This is important because methane is more than twentyfold worse a greenhouse gas than CO2 will ever be.

Stick that in your carbon footprint!

YEAH!! make the beast with two backs YOU TACO BELL!!

[superjohn]

YEAH!! make the beast with two backs YOU TACO BELL!!

[LowThudd]

This is important because methane is more than twentyfold worse a greenhouse gas than CO2 will ever be.

Stick that in your carbon footprint!

Now ponder this: one of the largest source of man made methane are rice paddies. I am on the green side of this discussion, but that is a great argument to anyone who worries about vehicle emmissions.

[LowThudd]

Methane Charts http://www.ghgonline.org/aboutmethane.htm